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This Easy To Find Over-The-Counter Supplement Pill Can Help Children Grow Taller

This Easy To Find Over-The-Counter Supplement Pill Can Help Children Grow Taller

Over-The-Counter Supplement Pill(Update 6/2/2014: I have had to add this disclaimer in the front after I finished talking to a representative who have been selling Collagen Type I and Type III extract based drinks for a beauty products company. I looked deeper into the scientific basis of the company’s claims and after realizing that their claims are unjustified by the science, I wondered whether my claims here was also unjustified based on jumping to conclusions too quickly. I think I did just that. After looking at more of the research on the efficacy of Collagen Type I extract (or based on this post, Calcium L-Threonate which can increase Collagen Type I expression) on chondrocyte proliferation, I do NOT think this pill will help adults with fully closed ossified growth plate increase in height, even minimally. However, I will stand by the claim that there will be some effect on children with intact epiphyseal hyaline cartilage. I was wrong and I made a mistake in the analysis, in jumping to the wrong conclusion. Refer to the study “Relationship between cell shape and type of collagen synthesised as chondrocytes lose their cartilage phenotype in culture.)

In the last post I had written that there was something I found which came as close to the real solution as it gets. The following post is NOT it, but something else that we should consider adding to the supplement cocktail. It is still a useful supplement to take, and has been shown to help young children avoid diseases that can be caused by low bone mineral density. What I am claiming is a very easy to obtain pill which would have quite noticeable effects with children who still have the ability to continue to grow in height, but it would also have some height increasing benefits inside adults as well. If we combined this easy to get over-the-counter supplement pill with the others that we have already researched and had found to be effective, it would only improve on the effectiveness of the overall pill cocktail. From the notes by other researchers, it seems to be safe to take orally.

I had said before in a previous post about how there is close to nothing left to talk about and nothing else to discover. That is actually true, at least when it comes to all English based sources. However, there are still some resources which have been written in the old Soviet Union in Russian, Chinese, and Germany articles which I have not been able to take a look at yet. This post is the direct result of research done in some lab in China. It is a good indicator that we need to figure out how to find resources written in other languages from other countries which have a good history of scientific research and documenting down their research. I can’t read any of the Russia, German, or Chinese based studies so we would ask that the readers who can to help us out in looking up scientific articles written in other languages.

There is in fact one study Tyler showed me a year ago from a Iranian/Persian group of doctors written in Farsi where a teenage boy managed to get his growth plates reopened or unfused due to a sports injury where the ankle was fractured. We tried for hours to get the Google Translator and Yahoo’s Babel Fish to translate it but neighter of them worked well enough for use to read.

Example: It was only through luck that I managed to track down the actual patent # that proved that the Japanese Ginza Kojima Height Increasing Machine was indeed real and legitimate, based on a real patent. (Click Here to see the pictures of the actual patent.) Their method on increasing a fully grown person’s height using minimally invasive methods is completely original and makes total sense from a physics perspective (Using a combination of centripetal force and IVD decompression). Like all good things though, even that Patent has its limits on what it can give a person in terms of height. But the Japanese based patent was real and was shown to be reasonably effective, as judged by me and Sky more than 6 years ago.

What did I actually find? There is a certain compound which seems to have the effect of increasing the thickness of both articular cartilage and epiphyseal cartilage by increasing the expression of Collagen Type I.

The source is from a patent I discovered in the Google Patent Database entitled “Calcium l-threonate for preventing or treating cartilage related diseases (Patent # EP 1458372 A1)“. These patents are often filed to various international organizations to not just cover the intellectual rights of the use of the patent in one country but in many countries. The other Patent # is WO 2003004012 A1

So what is this compound? Calcium L-Threonate

Bio-Calth Calcium L-ThreonateFor this patent, I did do a rather extensive analysis on it to see whether what they are claiming was accurate. Was I just reading too much into this patent and looking for validation on what I hoped was in it? Probably, but sometimes we have to make connections that are very weak. I believe that there is a positive correlation and a causal effect, but it is very weak.

You can get the L-Threonate from Here.

Chemical Properties:

Calcium L-Threonate Chemical CompoundComes in white powder form, has no odor, is soluble in water but not in alcohol based liquids. Written as C8H14O10Ca. 

From the Patent, they say that the compound can be made from first combining L-Ascorbic Acid with Water, and then adding Calcium Carbonate into the mixture. Hydrogen Peroxide was added to start the Acid-Base reaction, at a set temperature up to a certain time. Push the product from the chemical reaction through packed active charcoal to filter and do a chemical separations process

Is the compound safe?

It seems that the L-Threonate compared to other NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) like Ibuprofen used to treat cartilage inflammation has less side effects. So it is safer than commonly prescribed prescription drugs. This might explain why the FDA allowed the compound to be allowed to be OTC or Over-The-Counter.

Dosage Requirements:

  • For an adult is typically between 0.5 g and 12 g per day, preferably between 3 g and 7 g per day. (Note: After doing some calculations, we found that for a person who weighs 150 lbs, they would need about 7 grams per day)
  • For children, the dosage may be decreased according to their weights

So What Is The Scientific Basis For Its Effectiveness?

The patent states that the Calcium L-threonate would have effects on collagen type I mRNA expression as well as a host of effects which I will just quote from below. (It has effects on articular cartilage, epipihyseal cartilage, chondrocyte hypertrophy, cartilage matrix generation, proteoglycan synthesis)

From the abstract…

“….It had been demonstrated by experiments that calcium L-threonate could improve significantly the positive expression percentage of collagen I mRNA in the chondrocyte and osteoblast, improved significantly the positive expression percentage of articular cartilage and epiphyseal cartilage, facilitated the growth of chondrocyte, increased the quantity of bone collagen, promoted the formation of bone and cartilage matrix and the synthesis of proteoglycan…”

Important: Now, we fully realize that the actual type of collagen found in hyaline cartilage and the epiphyseal cartilage is collagen type II. This compound would only increase Type I expression. Type I is actually the really, REALLY common type which is found in the human body. It is the same type as what women pay plastic surgeons to inject into their lips.

In the experiment the researchers took a total of 66 young lab rats and injected them with retinoic acid, which is a very well known compound which causes bone density loss and cartilage proteoglycan degeneration. 8 of those rats were use in a control group while the other 58 rats were put into 9 groups. Of the 9 groups, the chemical compound of normal saline, Caltrate-D, Calcium Citrate, Sodium hydroxyethyl phosphate, Calcium Citrate at 50 mg/kg of body weight, Calcium Citrate at 100 mg/kg of body weight, and 200 mg/kg of body weight.

The drugs were given to all groups except control for 10 weeks and fed a low Ca diet. After 10 weeks, the lower part of the right femur of each rat was extracted and analyzed.

Immunohistochemical stainingTo see the changes, there were immunohistological chemical assaying done using a chemical staining kit. If there was an increase in Collagen Type I expression, the bone and cartilage area would turn into a color of brown-yellow. The results can be seen in the Collagen Type I mRNA Expression of all 8 (wasn’t there supposed to be 9 groups??) sets. This is for the data from the immunohistochemical staining.

We note the difference between the Caltrate-D group and the Calcium L-Threonate group. Caltrate-D is just a brand name for a type of calcium supplement with very high levels of Vitamin D. When the rats were given caltrate-d, the chondrocytes actually started to ossify. Compare this to the Calcium L-Threonate,

For the group who got the Sodium hydroxyethyl phosphate, the chondrocytes did proliferate, but the chondrocytes seemed to be disorganized and started to clump together into osteoid groups (Bad sign).

It seems that for the 3 groups getting the Calcium L-Threonate, the effect “was helpful to the growth and development of epiphyseal cartilage and improved the process of autoskeleton in epiphyseal cartilage

Is the height gains permanent?

Unlike so many other techniques that have come out, the gains would be permanent, at least until the adult grow old and reaches their 50-60s and start to shrink again due to decreased collagen and proteoglycan levels in the IVDs. This is as permanent as it gets.

Why would the gains be permanent?

That is due to the fact that Calcium L-Threonate has more than just an effect on bones, or cartilage specifically, but both of them at the same time. The effect on bone is most pronounced. It increased the micro-circulation within the bones and reversed bone mineral density loss. This patent stated explicitly that

So what do you guys need to take away?

What the patent is actually doing is to claim an alternative, rather simple approach on making the Calcium L-Threonate. You’d need Ascorbic Acid, Hydrogen peroxide, Calcium Carbonate and water. as well as a heater of some kind. Of course, who would want to do that and put a chemical lab in their room?

The Chinese researchers tested 9 groups of lab rats and let them eat the chemicals. The leg bone of the rat was cut out after 10 weeks and tested to see how the difference in collagen expression and bone tissue accumulation and changes. The group with the L-Threonate had the biggest changes.

The patent states clearly that the supplement will be useful in treating and preventing cartilage-related diseases. Using a dosage of around 50-200 mg per kg of body weight would mean that the average 150 lb human would need about 7 grams of the compound for each dosage.

This compound would increase the level of Collagen Type I in the body in both children and adults. For children, it would have very noticeable effects, if one could ever do a real controlled type of scientific height increase test using identical twins. However, I don’t believe that type of experiment has ever been done.

For adults, the effect will be minimal, but for a certain minority of the adult population, it would actually let them increase in height, by upwards of a few millimeters. But you would want to combine it with other supplements we have already mentioned before. It will work best in a group.

Here is a link to Amazon where you can buy it if you want

Bio-Calth Calcium L-ThreonatePrice: Currently $25 on Amazon with Free Shipping if your order is over $35.

(Yes, it is an affiliate link. We get about $1 for every purchase the person makes through it.)

Note: The picture to the right is for the supplement sold by the reseller company BioCalth. On the product box right on the front, they actually directly reference two patent #s. They are….

  • Patent # 6077872 – This patent showed that Calcium L-Threonate can treat rickets in young kids. – Link Here
  • Patent # 6713513 B2 – This patent is the one we just talked about. – Link Here

It seems that the people from BioCalth specifically created and sold this supplement because they became aware of this China-based patent and saw a small market for people who wanted it.

 

This Non-Prescription Supplement Has Been Scientifically Proven To Make You Grow Taller Even With Closed Growth Plates

This Non-Prescription Supplement Has Been Scientifically Proven To Make You Grow Taller Even With Closed Growth Plates

Grow Taller Even With Closed Growth PlatesThe other day I read an article in a business related website from a well known financial writer that it is next to impossible to change people’s behavior. The internal inertia within people (described as entropic entities) suggest that on average, humans will always choose the path with the least resistance, that require the least bit of energy or effort. It turns out that the way to change a person to adjust their lifestyle and their behavior is either through giving pain which is a form of operant conditioning after they correct behavior, or you give the person who might only make the smallest of effort a series of easy wins in the beginning. Apparently the early wins create a type of reward or positive feedback loop pathway. It causes the release of dopamine which makes people want to continue to do the new behavior, as opposed to falling back onto their old behavior and habits. So, I’m going to take that advice and help you guys get a small win. This will be one of the first posts you will see when you arrive to our website Natural Height Growth.

So I guess it is time to just tell the people who visit this website the first, and probably the only, real supplement or pill that has been scientifically proven to increase height in people, even if they have no hyaline cartilage left between their secondary and primary ossification centers (aka growth plates). I once wrote in a very early post about the people’s desire to find some type of magic pill that will make them taller without pain, effort, and maybe just a little bit of money spent (Read the post There Is No Magic Bullet). Well, today I’ll tell the people that there is just one type of pill. I am not joking or lying to you guys. This pill will make you grow taller even with closed growth plates. We would never make false claims about just things, since that is not the culture and style of this website.

Caveat: Of course, there is just a slight “catch” about this pill, which I will state at the very end. (If you have been trying to get taller before, you already know the “but” part however the ending is reserved for beginners, people who are just starting out and looking for something that can give them some hope and encouragement in the beginning.)

So what is this pill?

Glucosamine Sulphate 1500 mg – Glucosamine Sulphate –

At what dosage? 1500 mg

Yes, that’s right. This is one of the most common non-prescription supplement pill which you probably have seen at your local Costco which lets you buy it in bulk. It has been proven to be not just good for your joints in removing the pain from such cartilage degenerative diseases as osteoarthritis, but also has been shown with almost conclusive evidence to help people increase their height, even after all of their epiphyseal growth plate cartilage has disappeared from endochondral ossification completion. However, it does not increase height in the way that most people are led to believe.

Buy the Supplement From Amazon Here

(Note: Yes, the link above is an Amazon Affiliate Link. If you are kind enough to buy the pills, or anything from Amazon through that link, the website will get about 6-7% commission from your purchases.) 

What are some possible side effects? 

First we note that all supplements are drugs. Let’s remember how our old D.A.R.E course back in middle school defined the term “Drug“. A “drug” is any type of substance , besides food and water, you put in your body that will alter the state of your body or mind. All drugs, taken at high enough dosages can become toxic and start to hurt your body. Even food and water can do that. Remember the story of that woman who died from Dihydrogen Monoxide Poisoning a few years ago trying to win a car? So, our recommendation is this. DO NOT Overdo the dosage. It is asinine to believe that swallowing 5 of these pills in one day is somehow better than just 1. The side effects that are most common has been upset stomach and indigestion. Those are however benign adverse reactions. Also, refer to the WebMD article on Glucosamine Sulfate.

Our Thoughts and Explanations

More than a year ago, we had already questioned the efficacy of this one supplement, and the results and feedback we got about the effectiveness of this supplement in the post Increase Height And Grow Taller Using Chondroitin And Glucosamine (Breakthrough?)showed that there was already a lot of interest and belief that this supplement does seem to work. The video we had uploaded was a guy who explained that he managed to increase his height by upwards of even 1.25 Inches (3 cm) from the supplement. (Note: We originally had made a conversion mistake and said that 1.25 inches was 4 cms, but recently corrected it. It is closer to 3 cms)

We reposted that video below so you guys won’t have to scramble around trying to figure out where we have been getting our information from.

Even I started to take the Glucosamine Sulphate in the middle of last year. I wrote about it back in the monthly update post “May of 2013 – What I’ve Been DoingI had measured myself and I also noticed around 2-3 millimeters of height increase after 2 months of oral supplementation. I would say that the increase was probably not because of measurement error. I made sure to get about a dozen measurements using mirrors and rulers. That was when I shaved my head and was swimming on a regular basis because I was living back in the US, after traveling around Asia the last year and a half.


The Scientific Proof and Studies

Glucosamine Sulphate Grow TallerIf you guys have any doubts about the scientific proof of this claim, Click Here and you’ll get a copy of the PDF of the randomized, double-blinded, placebo controlled study. The title of the paper is “Effects of Glucosamine Sulphate on Spinal Height: A Randomized, Double-Blinded, Placebo Controlled Pilot Study”

One of the authors of this exact study is Dr Peter McCarthy, from the Welsh Institute of Chiropractic at Glamorgan University, who carried out the study. It is the exact study that was referenced by our older post about the effect of using Glucosamine with Chondroitin. The reference we are talking about was written on the Daily UK Website entitled Can a pill make you taller in four weeks?maybe 3 years ago.

The results showed that on average, a person would gain around 2-4 mm of extra height from taking the pill on a regular basis for upwards of 4 weeks. This is assuming that they don’t do anything else to help with the height gain.

The Catch: The pill probably won’t give most people the type of extra height that they would hope for. When we get messages from people asking for help, they ask for usually 4-5 inches.  If people are hoping to turn from a Messi into a Peter Crouch, they are going to be severely disappointed. The maximum one would ever expect from this type of pill form of grow taller technique is probably 2-3 cms, but I know quite a few people who have paid almost $100,000 to get just 5 cm of extra height from going through with limb lengthening surgery. (Click here to listen to our interview with Andrew, who did 9 cms of extra height in his femurs through surgery)

So if you are interested in possibly getting upwards of even 3 cms of extra height which might be more permanent that most people would believe, then this pill is the best, cheapest, most convenient option at the current time. This is as close to a cheap form of magic pill as we are probably going to ever get, at least for the next few decades.

Restore Spinal Disk HeightRemember that for most people, getting 3 cm is probably very abnormal without other factors included. The extra rewards will require more than just popping a pill into one’s mouth every night before sleep. It won’t be that easy. You will be required to do some types of stretching/decompressing of the vertebrate discs exercises to get more height. Refer to our other post  Restore Spinal Disk Height And Increase Height Temporarily Through Land Based Supine Flexion. This will get one’s lower back/lumbar intervertebral discs to become fully straightened out/decompressed.

Future Research: There have been claims that Chondroitin, Hyaluronic Acid, and Heparan Sulfate would also work, but let’s just start off by taking this supplement for now, and worry about other supplements for a later time.

Again, here is the link to buy the supplement from Amazon

Here’s the full study:

The study says that with age there is a decrease in glycosaminoglycan in the iVD.

 

The authors state that glucosamine can affect the height of normal spinal height of non arthritic population. The authors speculate that this may be a result of reduction in dirunal shrinkage.

“Both the glucosamine sulphate and the placebo were supplied by Health Perception (UK) Ltd and
were identical in appearance and packaging. The active tablets contained 500 mg of glucosamine sulphate with potassium chloride. In addition, both the active tablets and the placebo contained microcrystalline cellulose, di-calcium phosphate and magnesium stearate. It was necessary for all participants to take three tablets per day of their respective treatments so that those in the
glucosamine group would be taking 1500 mg day of the active substance.”

This study found that glucosamine had no effect on cartilage parameters:

Assessment of the effect of glucosamine sulfate and exercise on knee cartilage using magnetic resonance imaging in patients with knee osteoarthritis: A randomized controlled clinical trial

“Osteoarthritis (OA) is a chronic disease characterized by the focal deterioration and abrasion of articular cartilage. The goals of therapy are preserving normal joint function, relieving pain and improving quality of life (QOL). This study is performed to investigate whether glocosamine sulfate and exercise could both delay joint structure degradation evaluated with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) and improve symptoms in a short time period. Materials and methods: Thirty-nine women with the diagnosis of knee OA were enrolled in the study. Patients were randomized into two groups. Group I (n=20) received an exercise program, while group II (n=19) received glucosamin sulphate (1500 mg/day) in addition to the exercise therapy. Both groups were treated for 12 weeks. The patients were evaluated before and after the treatment regarding pain, disability, functional performance, muscle strength, QOL, depression and MRI findings (cartilage volume, medial and lateral cartilage thickness{If these increase it could be an indication that height could increase}). Results: Both groups showed significant improvements in pain, disability, functional performance, QOL and depression with no statistically significant difference between the groups after the therapy. While there were significant improvements for all MRI parameters expect right knee cartilage volume and lateral cartilage thickness in two groups, statistically significant differences could not be demonstrated between the groups after the therapy. Conclusion:We found no additional effect of glucosamine in delaying the radiological progression and relieving the symptoms of OA. We also demonstrated that exercise alone was adequate to prevent structural changes and cartilage loss of the knee joint as assessed by MRI. Level of evidence: Diagnostic study (prospective study).”

This study did find a difference:

Effects of Chondroitin and Glucosamine Sulfate in a Dietary Bar Formulation on Inflammation, Interleukin-1β, Matrix Metalloprotease-9, and Cartilage Damage in Arthritis

“This study examined the effects of chondroitin sulfate (CS) alone and CS plus glucosamine sulfate (GS) in a dietary bar formulation on inflammatory parameters of adjuvant-induced arthritis and on the synthesis of interleukin-1β (IL-1β) and matrix metalloprotease-9 (MMP-9). Following 25 days pretreatment with dietary bars containing either CS alone, CS plus GS, or neither CS nor GS, rats were either sham injected or injected with Freund’s complete adjuvant into the tail vein. Rats were fed their respective bars for another 17 days after inoculation. Parameters of disease examined included clinical score (combination of joint temperature, edema, hyperalgesia, and standing and walking limb function), incidence of disease, levels of IL-1β in the serum and paw joints, levels of MMP-9 in the paw joints, paw joint histology, and joint cartilage thickness. Treatment with CS plus GS, but not CS alone, significantly reduced clinical scores, incidences of disease, joint temperatures, and joint and serum IL-1β levels. Treatment with CS alone and CS plus GS inhibited the production of edema and prevented raised levels of joint MMP-9 associated with arthritis. Similarly, CS alone and CS plus GS treatment also prevented the development of cartilage damage associated with arthritis. Combination CS plus GS treatment in a dietary bar formulation ameliorates clinical, inflammatory, and histologic parameters of adjuvant-induced arthritis. The benefits of CS and GS in combination are more pronounced than those of CS alone. The reduction of arthritic disease by CS plus GS is associated with a reduction of IL-1 β and MMP-9 synthesis.”

This study did not find a difference:

Effect of glucosamine sulphate on the temporomandibular joint of ovariectomised rats

“Glycosamine is an amino-monosaccharide present in connective and cartilage tissues that contribute to the maintenance, resistance, flexibility, and elasticity of these tissues. This study aimed to determine the in vivo effects of glucosamine sulphate (GS) on the temporomandibular joint (TMJ) of ovariectomised rats (OVX).Thirty-two rats were distributed into four groups as follows: G1, sham-OVX + saline solution; G2, sham-OVX + glucosamine sulphate (80 mg/kg) – oral administration; G3, OVX + saline solution; G4, OVX + glucosamine sulphate (80 mg/kg) – oral administration. Animals were treated for seven days. The TMJ was removed and stained with toluidine blue. The thickness of the cartilage layers and cytokines IL-1β, IL-6, and TNF-α levels were determined by histomorphometry and immunoassay, respectively. The administration of GS to OVX females did not change the thickness of condylar cartilage when compared with the other groups (p > 0.05). There was an increase in the total cartilage thickness in sham-OVX females. IL-1β and TNF-α levels were significantly lower in sham-OVX females than in OVX females, indicating that ovariectomy acts as potent cytokine inducer. IL-6 levels were significantly higher in sham-OVX females. GS did not affect cytokine production in OVX females (p > 0.05). In conclusion, the administration of GS did not affect cytokine levels, but did induce an increase in the total thickness of the TMJ condylar cartilage in sham-OVX rats.”

It may the type of glucosamine that affects whether it works or not

Effects of glucosamine in patients with osteoarthritis of the knee: a systematic review and meta-analysis

“Osteoarthritis (OA) of the knee is one of the main causes of mobility decline in the elderly. Non-surgical treatments such as administration of supplements to strengthen the joint cartilage matrix have become popular not only for pain relief but also for joint preservation. Glucosamine has been used in many countries based on the increasing evidence of its effectiveness for OA. Although there are many previous studies and systematic reviews, the findings vary and different conclusions have been drawn. We aimed to review recent randomized controlled trials on glucosamine for knee OA to reveal up-to-date findings about this supplement. We also performed a meta-analysis of some of the outcomes to overcome the unsolved bias in each study. Eighteen articles written between 2003 and 2016 were analyzed. Many used visual analogue scale (VAS) pain scores and the Western Ontario and McMaster Universities Osteoarthritis Index (WOMAC), which were assessed in our meta-analysis. We found a marginally favorable effect of glucosamine on VAS pain scores. The effect on knee function, as measured by the WOMAC, was small and not significant. A newly established knee OA scale, the Japanese Knee Osteoarthritis Measure (JKOM), is commonly used in Japan. Although the number of subjects was small, the JKOM meta-analysis indicated that glucosamine is superior to a placebo in alleviating knee OA symptoms. Given this, we concluded that glucosamine has the potential to alleviate knee OA pain. Further studies are needed to evaluate the effect of glucosamine on knee function and joint preservation, as well as to evaluate the combined effect with other components, such as chondroitin.”

“Two important reviews, Cochrane review in 2005 and the review by Eriksen et al. in 2014, reported the importance of the brand of glucosamine to explain the variance and that the studies using the Rottapharm/Madaus product showed statistically significant effects on knee OA symptoms, while other glucosamine products failed to prove their effects

” the use of the prescription formulation of patented crystalline glucosamine sulfate (Rottapharm/Madaus product) and chondroitin sulfate”

In the spinal height study the subjects did perhaps a crystalline form.