The Concept Of “Hidden Height” Fully Explained Using A Lot Of Common Sense And A Dash Of Scientific Theory.

I realized that for at least half a dozen posts so far I’ve been referencing this idea I have coined known as “Hidden Height’ and I wanted to explain it completely and as well as I can with this post.

I want to create this post so I can just reference and point to this post and idea the next time some person decides to message or tell me that their cousin/friend/brother/etc. managed to grow 1-2 inches from doing exercises and al taking some weird Ayurvedic and/or traditional Oriental medicine based herbal multi-vitamin, all natural supplement pill.

Some people have also been good and understand the idea completely and realize that some minimal amount of height increase might be possible using ordinary stretching, regular intense exercising, and a lifestyle change.

If we wanted to get really technical, if someone asked me “Can I grow taller even though I am 25-35 years old and my growth plates are closed using ordinary exercise routines and taking some type of supplement?” I would have to say Yes. Technically, they can but not at the results that they would hope for. Instead of 7 inches, I say that they will only gain 1 inch in extra height, maybe 1.5 inches if their previous lifestyle conditions satisfy certain qualities. Most people should only expect around 1/4 to 3/4th of an inch increase from before.

Usually the people who come to this website are below average in height, and hoping for some type of Miracle or Magic Pill or supplement or multi-vitamin that can be a fast, easy, relatively painless way to increase their height by over 3 inches. Some people I get messages from ask to gain 7-8 inches. They want to go from 5′ 7″ to 6′ 4″ (This is by YouTube profile height increase seeker SkinTightFlash). What he is asking for is a 9 inch increase in height. From NBA basketball lingo, he wants to go from a Spud Webb to a Dwyane Wade. Some other people make equally insane desires with wanting 7-8 inches in increase.

Well there is NO SUCH THING at this point in medical science and technology. However, if we use our common sense and think a little, we realize that it is more likely that we can gain some height if we are persistent and do exercise on a regular schedule. I once wrote in another post that probably around 40-50% of an group of people in the developed countries can increase their final maximum height by up to 1 cm, permanently too. Now, it may not seem like lot since 1 cm is actually less than even half of an inch (more precisely, 1 cm = 0.393700787 inches). What I am saying is that with maybe just 30 days of hard intense exercise, a percentage of people who wish to be taller will be taller.

Most doctors, orthopaedics, and endocrinologist would claim that it is impossible to grow taller after you have reached physical maturity, which is another way to say your epiphyseal growth plates are closed, or that your are now passed the phase of puberty. The truth is that they are not being completely accurate on that claim. Technically their are only half right.

I am validate the fact from my own personal experience of gaining 1/4th of an inch through a many month long exercise regime and many other people who post on the forums that it is possible to gain some height after reached adulthood.

However all that height was really just the result of one’s vertebrate decompressing less during a certain time of the day. A few years ago, I measured my height with a completely shaved standing up completely straight, leaning against a completely vertical white wall, looking at a large mirror in front, and standing completely straight, that my height actually was slightly over 6′ 0″ when I measured myself immediately after getting out of bed after a long sleep at night, maybe even reaching almost the 6′ 0.25″ mark. I had reached this arbitrary set length standard point made by the US/British Unit Standards. I was at 182.88 cms tall, which has been some sort of social based acceptable height level for so many females on most online dating sites. For other nations who use metric units, that acceptable height level for dating by many females was 180 cms, or 70.8661417 inches, which is actually less than 5′ 11″. Of course the height increase was only for the maximum height after getting out of bed. I never measured whether my evening height also increased, which was something I forgot to do.

“Hidden Height” comes from the vertebrate and torso region. It will not come from the limbs/ legs. There is no space in the knees or other synovial joints which can expand, decompress, or be stretched out through normal exercise. This idea refers to the potential of real possible a height not completely maximized or realized a person can gain if they went through ordinary but intense exercise routines. The human body is technically a living organ/tissue which can be manipulated and molded, but when it comes to the hardest type of living tissue, the bone, only certain areas of the human body can be stretched out further in the vertical direction. The height increase gained is from effectively changing one’s lifestyle of exercise. If a person is already fit, healthy, and exercise regularly, their “hidden height” would be less than for a person who in the beginning has vertebrate curvature like a person suffering from hunched back and scoliosis. People who have been traditionally lazy, overweight, and slouches a lot will see the biggest results. Every one else will see results that are much less.

In the beginning of my initial research I looked for case reports of people who on the height increase forums claimed that they did gain some increase, but it either went away or was reduced after they stopped doing the exercises. Most of these people would go into deep detail on their exact routine.

From this thread HERE, I am copying and pasting a post a efocmacro, Veteran Height Seeker said…

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject:

Hey guys, i started July 7th 2007, i did spine stretches with the lynx backstretcher and did yoga stretches for a duration of 3 months. i hit a 2 inch gain (im lucky because my spine was already pretty curved to begin with). After the 3 months, i went on hiatus, i didnt really do any back stretching up until about a few days ago. I regained some of the height but not the full 2 inches yet (i had lost an inch from being on hiatus). I will progress on that as time moves on. 

I started 5’6, i am now 5’7.5 

Right now i am experimenting something new. I already handled the top portion of my body (spine), now its time to try the lower portion of my body and the most difficult (legs). Since my Growth plates are already fused, i dont know what GH can really do for my legs, but im willing to give it a shot. 

I am currently taking GH factor supplements 

From a 2nd post by someone I have referenced and talked about before, a Monaug5 HERE – Monaug5’s Progress from 5’8 to 5’10

Veteran Height SeekerJoined: 05 Sep 2008
Posts: 231
Location: Essex, UK
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Monaug5’s Progress from 5’8 to 5’10 Reply with quote

Age: 20 (Birth Date: Aug 1991)
Starting Height: 5’7.75(Night time) -1.72m-(March 1st 2009)
Current Height: 5’9(Night time) -1.75m- (As of January 2012)Dream height 5’10(Night time) -1.78m-
Mom’s height : 1.70m (5’7- Daytime)
Dad’s Height : 1.85m (6’1 – Daytime)
Bro’s Height : 1.80m (5’11) – was 5’6 when he was 13!!!!!!!
Starting Height: 5’7.75 -1.72m (On the 3rd August 2008)
Current height: 5’9 -1.75m- (Currently)
Dream height 5’11 (1.80 m)
Age : 20Last edited by monaug5 on Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:51 am; edited 13 times in total

Well my routine will be similar to N Specs but without the muscle building: 
– Sprint for 5 mins with 5lb ankle weight attached to my legs. 
– After sprinting attach 5lb to each leg and sit for 1 hour then take then off and go to bed. 

I am expecting a growth from this. 

I am sure you can all see from my families height why I want to be 5’10 and beyond lol

I have decided to change my routine for the final time as now I have thoroughly read through the routines of legends of this forum such as summerdance, outofthebox and N Spec and t therefore come to the conclusion that large enough weights with a suitable sitting time will get results.


So my routine is simply sitting with 10lb each leg ankle weight or also known as 5kg each leg for 30 mins. Multiple sessions of sitting with this weight will be done throughout the day Monday to Friday with me posting my progress at least every 2 months(most likely sooner) 

The gains will not come fast and I will be happy if I can see a 1.5inch gain between the month of September and July 2010 as that would see me hit my 5’10 goal with ease. 

Tomorrow I am buying the weights from ebay for £28 thats Great British Pounds by the way so if I do gain all of this will be known as quite cost effective. 

My eventual goal will be to hit 5’11 during my routine and then take a few weeks break to see if I lose 1 inch but after speaking N Spec and him tell me that he is 5’8.8 from 5’9.5 he previously was I am expecting to end up at 5’10.25 once my break is completed. If I feel good with my body after the break then I will look into continuing the routine further but for me the immediate height satisfaction will come once I am as tall as my brother. 

One revelation I found out today is that my brother has legs that are no more than 3.5cm longer than mine meaning I could gain 4cm/1.5inches in my legs then I would be equal to him. 

Like N Spec I will be measuring my height against something but my first measurement was taken with a measuring tape. 

As you can see the measuring tape is not 100% straight but if it was then I measured as weak 5’8 as my brother 5’10 and a family friend 5’11.5 measured me with the inclusion of my little brothers hand. My next photo should come around Q2 2010 with me proudly measuring 5’9 or thereabouts as currently as of typing this I stand at 174cm(5’8.5nighttime) 


From another post Hi5even, Gained 1 Inch – Seeking another one more

Rookie Height SeekerJoined: 14 Feb 2012
Posts: 44
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:38 am    Post subject: Gained 1 Inch – Seeking another one more

Hi,I started at 5’7, now im 5’8.

About 6 months back, i started my HI routine, the first 3 months were Tremendous, and i gained an Inch from that. The last 3 months have been horrible, quite a few irregularities, the food intake hasnt been all that great either.

First three months, i started Skipping and hanging together. Due to monsoon, i could only hang as i do it in the park next to my apartment. I DID start skipping, last month, again i couldnt do it cause of lack of discipline, work commitments, etc.

For those who want to read a journal of my first 3 months, heres the link ->

As for now, i am starting my HI routine again. I must say im a bit let down due to no progress in the last 3 months, though the disciple hasnt been strong, id still say i hung 85% days all these months.

So my routine will be fairly simple and straight –

Jumping rope – Ive been doing about 1200 – 1400 since last 1 week.

Hanging – Ive been 12 sets of 30 seconds. That means 6 complete minutes, with 30 seconds of break in every set. From today, im going to push it to 7 minutes.

Sleep – My sleep pattern hasnt bee stable. I sleep 8 Hours average, but there have been times i could get only 6 hours of sleep.

Id really like your inputs. I also want to know if, in your experience has any one lost their gains after a big gap or after they finished their HI program.

Thanks and eagerly waiting for you guys’ response.

What is obvious from maybe the only 3 members of the forum who got some clear results is that none of them ever managed to get even 2 inches of height increase. Monaug5 had the largest increase in height, around 1.5 inches, but he states from his post that he already had some vertebate curvature to begin with. I think I remember seeing maybe 2-3 other people on the forums say that they got some increase too, and one person did claim 2 inches.


This was by someone named WireySpindell –  ONE YEAR, TWO INCHES

Height Seeker PhDJoined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 1363
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: ONE YEAR, TWO INCHES Reply with quote

Hello everybody, I stumbled across this site a few months ago, and figured now would be a good time to share my story with you. Today is my one-year anniversary of starting my height program, and as of this morning I am 5’10 1/4″ – exactly two inches taller than when I started a year ago.My routine began with mostly stretching excercises, about 20min a day, 6x a week. I used one of the routines found at . The site hasnt been updated in 5 years and i tried to contact the administrator with no reply, but there is still plenty of helpful information that can be used along with the wealth of info on this site. Click on the OTHER INFO section and theres posts from a guy who gained 3 inches in 2 years. I found that inspirational when I went a few months without results. I later added swimming to my routine, swimming 5 days a week for a good while, recently cutting down to 3 after i began lifting weights again. Lifting weights can be helpful in boosting GH production, and generally leads to a more balanced physical development (shooting up an inch in 2 months can leave you feeling skinny!), but I make efforts not to do excercises that put too much strain on the spine. For instance, istead of doing curls standing up, i’ll use the shoulder rests, I stay away from shoulder press, etc. I’m not sure how detrimental certain excercises can be to your success, but i figure theres no harm in being careful. I find bench press and squats the best for pure GH production. I also bike with a raised seat for 10 min before every workout, and try and get at least 5 min of bar hanging every work out day.

As for supplements, I take a multi- vitamin 1x/day, calcium 2x/day., glucosaime/chondroitin 2x day, and glutamine 1x/day. I’m about to replace the glutamine with L-arganine L-ornithine. I eat healthy, and also take a whey protien, as your body needs all the protien it can get when doing this.

The most important factor though, I believe, is the right mindset. You have to believe that you are going to accomplish your goal, and stick to your program. Growing isn’t the easiest thing in the world to do, but then again it isn’t the hardest either. Patience, hard work and dedication is all that is really is standing in your way. I’m looking forward to re-dedicating myself to this program, and getting to 5’11” 5′ 11 1/2″ by this time next year.
If you have any questions feel free to ask, i’ll do my best to answer them.


Starting Height: 5’8″ (March, 2005)
Current Height: 5’10”
Goal: 5’11”, and then 6’0″ …
Parents Height: 4’11”, 5’9 1/2″
Age: 25

Here in a next post he explains the results and at what time frame he achieved them in.

Height Seeker PhDJoined: 11 Mar 2006
Posts: 1363
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the excercises on the other site are pretty much the same on the ones found on this site. What was helpful on the other site was that it actaully had a 6-month program you could follow, and different excercises for every week so your body is constantly adapting. You don’t neccessarily need to follow any program word for word, just keep in mind you should change up the excercises every week or so to keep your body adapting. This goes for any form of training.As for results, I kept a log so its easy to break down. I grew about 1/2 an inch in the first month (5’8 1/4- 5’8 3/4). This, of course, was a big boost. It was another couple of months to get another 1/2 inch, growing maybe a quarter inch every month (5’8 3/4- 5’9 1/4).
Over the next 3 month period i grew half an inch, with some gaps where i didn’t see too many results and then waking up one morning and being up a quarter-inch. So, after 6 months I’m up 1 1/2 inches. The last 6 months i put on another 1/2 inch, again, long gaps with no progress followed by occasional spurts (I’m now 5’10 1/4 in mornings). I think the fact that winter was setting in slowed me down a bit -I’ve heard it talked about on here that spring and summer are peak growth times, and winter is slowest (I also recommend a vitamin E supplement to offset this as well as help with calcium absorption). I also thing though, that there’s a drop off in growth as you move forward- i grew 1/2 inch in month, then 2 months for another 1/2 inch, then 3 months, then 6 months, etc…. I think every consecutive inch takes a little longer, and this kind of makes sense because when you start your body develops quicky and reaches a peak, after which its hard to improve on. Kind of like weight lifting- the first 15 lbs are easy, and then it takes ages to gain anther 5. hope that kind of explains things.


Starting Height: 5’8″ (March, 2005)
Current Height: 5’10”
Goal: 5’11”, and then 6’0″ …
Parents Height: 4’11”, 5’9 1/2″
Age: 25

What we are seeing from these members is that some of them do achieve what I thought was not possible, which is up to the 5 cms or 2 inch mark. You can see that these guys are not doing anything really innovative, crazy, or intense. They are being smart, practical, but also dedicated and persistent.

What they have been able to do is get the “Hidden Height” or potential height increased. to be fully realized. From exercising and stretching they have been able to increase their height. As for the supplements, I am not sure if the supplements they were taking helped in any way. However I don’t think it would hurt to take some of the supplements like Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulphate.

Sometimes all that is needed to validate an entire area of field is one real case that is proven in the laboratory in a double blind study with controlled variables with a p value over say .001. This type of arguement can also be applied to the idea of validating the existence of an afterlife. All it takes is for one person to come back from the dead and claim that they saw Jesus or some other religious symbol and most people would believe that it is real if they could come back with some proof.. The cases above show that “Hidden Height” does exist and for some people, it can be substantial. People like Lance Ward and Pierre Pozzuto (creator of A-Grow-bics) have been able to get some height for their clients. With Pierre’s program, a reporter did go through with his program and achieve 2 inches of height increase. She wrote about it in the article entitled “Impossible? No. But it’s definitely a bit of a stretch! How one 5ft 2in writer gained two inches in height“. However I would say that she got a little more than average, and most people should expect less.

Some height increase is possible. and with certain types of equipment, like a traction machine, the height increase may be able to reach 2 inches. However anything else would be not possible. Most people’s bodies can’t stretch and decompress that much. Even in space with zero gravity, the human height can only increase to a maximum of 2 (source, source). I would guess that the average human who is between 5′ 4″- 5’10” is would only see at most a 2 inch of increase in space, due to microgravity. The actual value is not actually 2 inches, but 3% of one’s earth bound height. So if you take 3% of say a 5′ 10″ human, you get (70 inches)x(.03) = 2.1 inches


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