Going right behind the first post about the possibility of using Sodium Pento Polysulfate aka Pento entitled “Increase Height And Grow Taller Using Sodium Pentosan Polysulfate AKA Pentosan” is this 2nd post where I wanted to go back to the idea of using a Pentosan derivative or variation to cause degraded articular cartilage to regain some of the thickness back leading to a slight height increase of maybe 1-2 mms.

Let’s look at the study “The effects of orally administered calcium pentosan polysulfate on inflammation and cartilage degradation produced in rabbit joints by intraarticular injection of a hyaluronate-polylysine complex.”

The study is rather simple. The researchers first use a combination of “a preformed polycation complex (PC) of poly-D-lysine and hyaluronan” to be injected into the synovial joint cavity of the lab animal to make that synovial joint gap stimulating inflammation of the overall joint. A normal saline solution was injected into the other same joint on the other side of the body to be used as a control.

Later the rabbit was fed the pentosan polysulfate and the results were that the Interleukin-6 concentrations were decreased. The researchers would conclude… “…preserve cartilage PGs in inflamed rabbit joints suggests that this substance could be of value as an effective orally administered chondroprotective, antiarthritic drug”

This compound can definitely protect the chondrocytes and cartilage layers, and decrease the symptoms of arthritis, by keeping the cartilage thickness intact for much longer. I suspect that it would lead to a slight increase in height in adults from this factor.

Something else before we continue…

The medical procedure of an Intra-Articular Injection needs to be looked at much more since it is a new clinical or medical method which I have not known before, or at least did not know the actual term of the process. For more information about Intra-Articular Injections, click on this study HERE written from the medical journal Anesthesiology Clinics.

This would be something which I think is viable for a really good alternative to invasive surgery for height increase if we can get the articular cartilage to start to behave like the growth plate cartilage.

I was looking for more information about the connection between height increase and stem cell research when someone linked to a website which I found would make an excellent new resource I and fellow height increase researchers can use to see just what the major organizations, institutions, corporations, and possibly even military researchers are doing. The government website Clinical Trials may turn out to be an even bigger resource to find potential new techniques, ideas, and treatments than even from Google Patents, Google Scholar, or PubMed.

From the Clinical Trials Website…

ClinicalTrials.Gov – A service of the U.S. National Institutes of Health

ClinicalTrials.gov is a registry and results database of publicly and privately supported clinical studies of human participants conducted around the world.

Some terms I would want to look through are…

• Longitudinal growth
• Growth Plate
• Epiphyseal
• Physeal
• Short Statured
• Tall Statured
• Gigantism & acromegaly
• growth hormone
• bone morphogenetic protein
• increased longitudinal growth

I will be putting this website along the top of my resources and website list to look for relevant information, just like Google Scholar, Google Patents, & Pubmed.

Background On Sam Snyder

I contacted Sam in the early months of the the website’s development to ask about his own opinion on Tyler’s blog and what he felt was the direction of potential height increase research. Of all the bloggers in the internet who has ever done any type of extensive, serious review on Tyler’s HeightQuest.com website, it has been Sam Snyder, who talked about the research we might see in the decades ahead on what might be created biomedically for use. I have mentioned Sam’s name in a few past previous posts.

Something I found today which is really interesting is that the blogger Sam Snyder, who I have actually contacted in the past wrote a post back in July of 2011 which suggests that someone he knew was offer a chance to get their height increased by 30 cms from getting stem cells injected into their bones using a machine from South Korea and at a clinic in China.

Growing Taller with Stem Cells in the Future

I found an article recently which stated that a completely new compound which I have never heard of has the ability to increase the amount of stem cells taken from human blood and bone marrow. Personally I believe that one of the best approaches and paths towards alternative height increasing ideas is to study more on potential compounds that can increase stem cells. This compound called Pleiotrophin is very new to me so I asked the question “Can we potentially inject pleiotrophin in our cartilage or bones to induce chondrogenesis and cartilage formation, and thus increase in height and make us taller?”

The article is entitled “Newly-Identified Growth Factor Promotes Stem Cell Growth, Regeneration” which I found from DukeHealth.org which is some website affiliated with Duke Medicine.

This compound seems to be a recently discovered growth factor that has the function of “stimulating the growth and regeneration of hematopoietic  stem cells in vitro and in vivo.” The new growth factor has potential since one of the biggest challenges with traditional applications of stem cells is the fact that stem cells seem to not proliferate very easily and the quantity of stem cells available is very little. It seems that the stem cell researchers have agreed that the ultimate source for stem cells for people who need transplants (ie. people who have cancer and can not longer use the chemo & radiation approach) would be from umbilical cord blood. The amount of umbilical cords are obviously extremely limited and there has not been any type of growth factor that is good enough in expanding the number of stem cells from the umbilical cord. When the researchers injected lab rats with pleiotrophin they noticed that the amount of stem cells that were coming from or produced by the bone marrow increased 10 fold. So obviously this compound might have some very important applications. However there is some worry that this compound might also cause some cells in the body to turn malignant although so far so results show this to be the case.

So I looked through PubMed and dug up as many useful and relevant studies as I could find to see what is the effect of pleiotrophin on bone tissue and cartilage tissue, if any. These are the studies that I managed to find.

Study #1: Pleiotrophin inhibits chondrocyte proliferation and stimulates proteoglycan synthesis in mature bovine cartilage.

Pleiotrophin turns out to be a type of regulated protein that is found commonly in the cartilage of fetuses but not developed mature cartilage. It binds to heparin. When the proteoglycan from the medium of mature chondrocytes are removed and treated with this compound, the synthesis of proteoglycan increases by 3 X. When the same pleiotrophin is added to the chondrocytes of fetuses, there is no increase in the level of proteoglycan synthesis. It seems that pleiotrophin seems to be able to control by inhibiting the growth of chondrocytes. When FGF and heparin was used, they could not reverse the effects of pleiotrophin. Upregulation of the mRNA for the proteins biglycan and collagen type II are also seen in the treated mature chondrocytes. It was noticed also that glycoaminoglycan concentration was increase multiple fold.

The researchers concluded that “These results establish that PTN inhibits cell proliferation, while stimulating the synthesis of proteoglycans in mature chondrocytes in vitro, suggesting that PTN may act directly or indirectly to regulate growth and proteoglycan synthesis in the developing matrix of fetal cartilage.”
Study #2: Effects of pleiotrophin, a heparin-binding growth factor, on human primary and immortalized chondrocytes.

It seems that this compound is expressed in mature cartilage in the early stages of osteoarthritis. However it seems that if you stimulate chondrocytes with the pleiotrophin for a long enough time you reduce the mRNA of VEGF as well as Nitric Oxide production. The other big part is that the mRNA for MMP-1 & MMP-13 were reduced, while the inhibitors of the MMPs, something called TIMP-1 & TIMP-2 were induced, which suggest that it could be very useful for chondrocyte formation. It was concluded that PTN is a autocrine growth factor in cartilage which has a role during the formation of osteoarthritis when the chondrocytes start to aggregate together.

Study #3: Pleiotrophin, an embryonic differentiation and growth factor, is expressed in osteoarthritis.

This compound is said to be “expressed in mesodermal and neuroectodermal cells during development, but rarely in adult tissues“. The researchers wanted to see whether PTN would show up in the synovial fluid of joints which have osteoarthritis. It seems that this growth factor has roles in cancer development, in chondrocyte differentiation, and during embryonic growth. The most interesting conclusion is that during early stages of OA, the mRNA for this peptide is expressed. While some people might think it is a bas compound, the researchers conclude that “PTN might be involved in cartilage repair in OA, in particular, in earlier stages”

Study #4: Expression of pleiotrophin, an embryonic growth and differentiation factor, in rheumatoid arthritis.

It seems that PTN was strongly up-regulated in synovial tissues from patients with rheumatoid arthritis while the up-regulation for people with osteoarthritis was much less. It also stimulated the proliferation of cultured human synoviocytes and in dermal fibroblasts VEGF. “Proinflammatory cytokines enhance the expression of PTN. Thus, we propose that PTN is a further paracrine angiogenesis and growth factor for synovial cells”

So what did I find and conclude about this compound? Does it have any type of pro-chondrogenic potential or anabolic properties?

As a growth factor, it is definitely anabolic and seems to have some qualities that make it very useful.

It seems to cause inflammation but inflammation is just the body’s immune system trying to attack a foreign object.

This compound is seen in both of the main types of arthritis. The general guess is that it is not expressed to start to damage the cartilage, but it is actually used to heal the cartilage during the early stages of arthritis at least.

It is said that this compound inhibits VEGF, NO, MMP-1 and MMP-13, all of which we have concluded at some point is bad for overall cartilage health.

This compound was shown to increase GAG and Proteoglycan concentrations in mature cartilage chondrocytes and medium/matrix in vivo and in vitro.

I would guess that injection of this compound would NOT cause arthritis since it seems to be to repair cartilage. If you injected it, the matrix of cartilage might generate more GAG and make the cartilage more robust and full.

There is a slight change that this compound can be used to keep cartilage healthier and slow down growth plate cartilage ossification.

While I was looking for sources yesterday which showed how stem cell research can one day be applied towards height increase I found a rather interesting story from the website for the The Daily Mail UK entitled “Botched stem cell facelift leaves woman with bones growing in her EYES “

The story is very much like what would be found in the tabloid stories in the US based Sun or Star Magazines but it did contain a small seed of useful information which we as height increase researchers might be interested in.

It seems that this women who went to a cosmetic surgeon in Beverly Hills noticed that her eyelids seemed to have been making a sort of “clicking” sound. She felt extreme pain when opening her eyelids. After going to another cosmetic surgeon to ask them what is the problem, it was found that she had bone tissue growing from her eye socket area.

From the article in the link…

“Dr Wu, of The Morrow Institute in California, told the magazine that when he first heard the woman’s complaint, he wondered if she was imagining things. 

But after painstaking six-hour surgery, he dug out small chunks of bone from her eyelid and the surrounding tissue.”

The clicking was two bone fragments that were scraping against each other. I would guess that somehow the injected stem cells that was taken from her stomach area turned into pieces of bones.

The researchers believe what happened was that the stem cells taken from the patient’s body reacted with a type of previous cosmetic surgery implantation, something known as dermal filler. The dermal filler has calcium in them. The dermal filler was added at the same time that her stem cells were added. The dermal filler was supposed to help remove wrinkles. The actual calcium is the calcium crystal hydroxyapatite

“During the procedure, cosmetic surgeons used liposuction to remove some fat from the woman’s abdominal area. They then isolated the stem cells.”

It seems that they took some adult adipose derived stem cells from the fat/adipose tissue around their stomach region. The tissue was filtered and purified to leave just the stem cells behind. The stem cells were injected into areas of the face to make the skin area look younger and healthier to produce what should have been new skin tissue and increase cell proliferation.

The 2nd cosmetic surgeon believed that the hydroxyapatite from the dermal filler got in contact with the stem cells which were injected into the face at the same time. Somehow the calcium crystal caused the adipose derived adult stem cells to start to differentiate into the osteogenic lineage.

The thing that is useful to know is the formula below

• Calcium Crystals Hydroxyapatite would cause adult adipose derived stem cells to differentiate into the osteogenic lineage formed bone tissue. 

• Hydroxyapatite + ADSCs = Bone

I recently found from typing in the phrase “stem cell height increase” into Google a forum message entitled “The Science of Increasing Height” from the forum ScienceForums.Net

The post who goes by the name HeightAudodidactic started the post back in August 2010 with this segment which I will post below…

“I’ve done a lot of research on height increase and it’s hard to get information that’s not from laymen or people who are so advanced they’ll just blow you off(cartilage and stem cell researchers).

I can prove that it’s possible to increase height on every level. Long bones can experience appositional growth (there’s been studies done on runners showing increase in periosteal width unless the increase is due to thicker periosteum people being more successful runners) and short, flat, and irregular bones have periosteum covering longitudinal directions such as calcaneus, pelvis, bone of the skull, spine, etc. Therefore it’s possible to grow taller that way.

The epiphyseal cartilage does not completely mineralize. I have not seen microscopic slides of this but not because I have not been looking. However, a texture of whiteness can be seen in the epiphysis that’s around the same texture of the articular cartilage. I have read textbooks that state that a layer of hyaline cartilage remains in the epiphysis as well. Endochondral ossification can occur from a lot of places. See the study called: Reappraisal of mesenchymal chondrosarcoma… If a hyaline cartilage line exists in the epiphysis then growth could be enhanced in that manner either through extraneous stem cell injection or by trabecular microfracture in the epiphysis (which contains red bone marrow which contain stem cells). Also, the fibrous capsule contains cells that have the ability to differentiate into chondrocytes and studies on lateral loading increasing height (see study: lengthening of mouse hindlimbs with joint loading). Lateral loading does cause shear strain on the fibrous capsule And the fibrous capsule leads almost directly into the hyaline cartilage growth plate line.

I was wondering if I could get maven’s opinions on height growth and the topics I mentioned above.”

I wanted to talk about this poster’s points because some of what he/she was saying does make a lot of sense to any height increase researcher who is at a higher level of understanding. They claim that they can prove that height increase can be achieved at every level. They also wanted someone else who understood enough about the science and biology of the human body to sort of argue with them on whether they were right or wrong.

The task I felt was something that I should try to either rebuttal, analyze, discredit, or agree with. So first I wanted to focus on the highlighted parts because those are the point which I felt is the most unique and original, ideas put forth which I have not seen before.

Analysis #1:

The first thing that this person says is very controversial already. They say that they can prove that growth is possible. The claim that runners have wider long bones from looking at the cross section of the tibia/long bones in general might be true since appositional growth is something that does occur. Due to Wolff’s Law, the bones will from constant loading start to remodel the bone mineral density and the bone width as a response to the external stimuli. His comment that the periosteal part (outer part) getting thicker is right, and it just might be that the thickness is due to the periosteal appositional growth (where periosteum get thicker). However we must remember that the way that appositional growth even works is to grow bones on the inner germinal layer that pushes in the inward direction. The bones do get thicker on the outside, but the layer on the inside actually breaks down as calcium minerals get adsorbed into the blood in the cavity or get resorbed into the trabecular bone region. The direction of bone growth is from outside inward. This means that that net thickness of the bone doe snot change.

His next few claims are the ones that I would definitely contend with, and I am sure almost every person who has ever gone through medical school would contend this person’s claim as well. There is no hyaline cartilage layer left. I have actual X-Rays of my own knees from 4 years ago and from careful inspection, I do not see any line. Even the epiphyseal line that is supposed to result when the last bit of cartilage ossify seem to disappear as well over time. This guy talks about how he has not seen slides and that is the mistakes. I have seen the slides of at least two people in my life who were adults, one of them being mine. In both cases the X-Rays show that the long bones like the femur have absolutely NO line or white tint at the region where the growth plates used to be. There is just nothing there.

If this person’s argument in the beginning is challenged and disproved, which I think I have already, then all the arguments that they made after the first claim holds no water in logic. He talks about stem cell injections and trabecular microfracture in the epiphysis, which do make some sense and possibly work if there was a thin layer of cartilage still available, however there is no layer of hyaline cartilage left. It is all gone.

This guy uses the term ‘fibrous capsule’ and I would assume that the term is referring to the inner part of the overall long bone, like a femur. The bone is an enclosed area that encapsulates the marrow and progenitor mesenchyme inside. he talks about the inside of the fibrous capsule having cells that differentiate into chondrocytes and that it true. His mention of LSJL and the fact that it would cause the shear stress that leads to more stem cells that go towards a layer of hyaline cartilage cells and then start differentiating into the chondrocyte lineage, (although I state that he was wrong about this because the assumption is always that there is some chondrocyte-like layer still around where the growth plates used to be, but I challenged and disproved the initial assumption)

So it seems that this person got what they wanted, which is a somewhat educated response to their question.

For me I guess the most useful thing that this guy/girl showed was a study that they specifically named “See the study called: Reappraisal of mesenchymal chondrosarcoma…”. I found it, and wanted to look at the science of this type of cancer to see if it might have something useful we can learn from and take away for future research.

Reappraisal of mesenchymal chondrosarcoma: novel morphologic observations of the hyaline cartilage and endochondral ossification and beta-catenin, Sox9, and osteocalcin immunostaining of 22 cases.

This type of rare cancer is said to be a round cell and hyaline cartilage tumor. Researchers wanted to see what would happen if they put SOX-9, Beta-Catenin, and osteocalcin in people who had this type of cancer. The tumors were examined and some things were found.

It is noticed that in the tumor, there are cartilage cells that are going through a similar process as if they were going through endochondral ossification. Cells positive for osteocalcin were found. There seem to be at least two types of sarcomas defined in this abstract, the mesenchymal chondrosarcoma, and the small cell osteosarcoma which seem to be formed from small round cells and turn to osteo-like tissue.

The sentence that the guy was referring to on why they say that cartilage can be regrown or regenerated is probably the one below…

“Mesenchymal chondrosarcoma demonstrates centrally located hyaline cartilage with a linear progression of chondrocytes from resting to proliferative to hypertrophic, which undergoes endochondral ossification, recapitulating growth plate cartilage and suggesting that this component of mesenchymal chondrosarcoma may be a differentiated (benign or metaplastic) component of a malignant metastasizing tumor…”

This seems to me to mean that if a person developed this type of cancer, there will be hyaline cartilage that is formed in the cavity in the middle of long bone which has all of the same types of chondrocytes as natural growth plates. It says that growth plate cartilage is recapitulated, which implies that the cartilage can be regrown over again from the advent of this cancer.

Implications For Height Increase

I am not sure at this time how to interpret this abstract and whether I am even reading the abstract correctly and understand it like I am supposed to. It seems to show that for people who have this rare condition known as msenchymal chondrosarcoma who are adults, tumors in the center of long bones develop. This tumor are NOT the same as the osteosarcoma developed by small round cells which ultimately form bone tissue. This tumor seems to consist of a linear progression of chondrocytes that look very much like the histology of natural growth plates.

This might mean to show that for people who have this disorder, they have newly formed growth plates but I am very cautious on this claim because I still understand very little of what is really going on with the bone tissue. Even if growth plate structure is noticed in the center of the bone, it does not mean that the growth plate has the strength to expand to a degree to pull the cortical bone apart to lead to renewed longitudinal growth.

So more research needs to be done.