Memories and Thoughts After 8 Years, A True Warning For All Height Seekers

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Something I have stated many times over and warned about to many height increase seekers is to realize that there may be two very bad end results that can come about if one stays on this path or this endeavor for too long.

1. After many years and years of frustration, trials, scams, and failures one finally gives up and accepts that they will never be able to grow any taller than what they are at now.

2. They try so hard on one idea or method that they actually manage to hurt themselves, either in their knees, ankles, or back. That leads to a chronic and increasing severe joint problem filled with pain.

I found a post from the Impartial Height Increase Message Board (found HERE) where a poster of the name MarcusCamby23 made a few comments that really, and I mean REALLY sobering and depressing comments which has really stuck to me.

One of the Original Pioneers (back after 5 years)

August 25 2009 at 6:47 AM

I think I was about 14 years old back in 2000 or 2001 when I started posting on these sites. It all began on another network 54 forum and then one day in early 2002 Joey decided to make his own forum since the original one was getting out of hand. This was over 7 1/2 years ago. My how time flies. I really can’t believe it. Back then I was a motivated High School basketball player out of New York doing every method in order to grow taller, no matter how ridiculous or far fetched it seemed or looked. That was back then as a freshman and it progressed into my homelessness right out of high school and then eventually at the age of 18 going to Chongqing, China in order to get a Limb Lengthening surgery. I went, but I never got it. 5 years has passed since I visited China and even more has passed as me along with a couple others that no longer visit this forum started it all. (Back then we were all a tight knit group giving support to each other in our quest to find the solution to our dilemma. The only thing that I can say that may have any chance of working is constant hanging, inversion and taking Chrysin pills if your epiphysis haven’t fused yet. Also sleeping with weights using the Tigga method might have given me a millimeter or so, but I highly do not recommend it as it has given me permanent hip and knee damage. I also do not recommend buying the super high jack. I slept with this machine and it has permanently ruined my lower back and caused me to have a slipped disk or some kind of severe back problem that makes it nearly impossible to get out of bed if it is aggravated with a wrong movement. I was 14 back then and now I am 23 years old and still trying to make it with basketball. Joey, it was nice to see that you still maintain this site. Looking back at all of those posts, it’s kind of bittersweet to go back in time in a sense and see the things that I talked about back then. In a way it brings me back to those fall, winter and spring afternoons when I would rush home from school to posts on these sites. I’ve come a long way since then. I knew then that in the future I would be where I am now, yearning to be where I once was. In retrospect I would do many things all over again, but with more attention focused on developing my athletic skills and not so much my height. At 6’4″ I don’t think I did so bad. Well, good luck to all of you. I would say your best bet is to take chrysin if your growth plates or epiphysis haven’t fused yet along with stretching, yoga and regular exercise.MarcusCamby23

heard of…

August 25 2009 at 11:58 AM

heard of your name before but i didn’t see any recent posts.
God bless your 6’4″sky

Holy Crap

August 25 2009 at 2:40 PM


I’m surprised you’re still alive…like LITERALLY

It’s been forever dude. I remember you wanting to be 6’10 so you could make the nba. I remember you were deadset on getting LL surgery, once even saying after high school you were gonna be a bartender to make money to save up for it, how you hated your mom…ummm…how you once took like dozens of GH releasing aminos and hoping ‘You didn’t wake up the next morning’ etc.

So how’s it been man? Glad to see you’ve come to terms with where you are now.

Re: One of the Original Pioneers (back after 5 years)

August 25 2009 at 8:13 PM

wow, you have a great memory to be remembering all of that. It’s amazing that you are still around after practically a decade has gone by. I would have thought that by now you would have lost your interest in gaining height and would have moved on, but it’s nice to see you’re still around to help others that are just starting off as we did back then. Knowing you, I was expecting to still see you back.I don’t recommend that anyone sleep with weights hanging from a chin up bar that are attached to your legs via inversion boots. If you’re lucky enough to wake up within 3 hours you will find that your legs have lost total circulation and feeling. It gets so bad that a 25 pound weight fell on my foot right after I got out of bed andI thought the lower half of my body was dead because I didn’t feel it. If this had happened in normal conditions any normal person would have yelled in agony. Like I said lucky enough I woke up within 3 hours and not after a full nights rest or else I may not have legs today. In conclusion I think Tigga lied about having had grown 6 inches by having weights hanging from his legs. I knew that he was full of it by using common sense, but I decided to give it a try anyway.Yeah in January ’04 I got my bartending license in New York City. By the end of my junior year I already had enough credits to graduate, but I only needed certain glasses to satisfy the graduation requirements. By January of ’04 I was done with school and only had to await my June ’04 graduation. I must have gone to the city about 6-8 hours a day walking from uptown to downtown handing out resumes, but as the old saying goes “it’s not what you know, but who you know” I eventually landed a job in May of ’04. I got it from a friend that I made at the gym. By that time I had already saved up thousands from a job I already had. Therefore, I worked simultaneously every single day maintaining two jobs and hitting the weightroom 5 times a week. At that time I was 180 – 185 pounds and 6’4″. I am now 205 – 215lbs.Yeah I still do hate my mom, but I am accepting the past better. Back then I couldn’t imagine life still being 6’4″ because I was so fixated on being that 6’10” guy that would stand out among all others on the basketball court and in day to day public interections. It took me many years and hitting rock bottom to finally come to terms with my height and with the way things are and have been. YEah, I still remember that day I took bottles of amino acids hoping that I wouldn’t be alive the next day. Yeah, it’s has been a struggle for years and it is still is. At this point the only thing that can keep one going is hope that possibly one day things will change and get better, even if they never do.

Below I attached some pictures of how I was then and how I am now. It shows a slow progression of how we age. It find it to be very sad, but it’s the reality of life. Just because we all age externally we shouldn’t forget how we started and we shouldn’t compromise the essense of who we were when we first started out at this life. I have talked to people I was best friends with growing up as a child and I can’t even recognize them anymore. It’s as if they have completely forgotten the past and who they were and the meaningful reltionship we once had. Their childlike demeanor and the way they behaved in the world has been completely lost and replaced by something I can’t recognize. I guess it is true that relationships are like seasons and some last longer than others, but eventually they change and move on and so must we.

High School Graduation June 2004, 18 years old and 5 months
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November 2006, 20 years old and 10 months
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June 2007, 21 years old and 5 months
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July 2008, 22 years old and 6 months
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Same old MC23

August 26 2009 at 12:45 AM


 Hopefully you still play because you want to and you love it….and not disgruntled like I am. I mean your best days are still in front of you.

Yeah, I have an excellent memory…especially when it comes to random information that can’t help me in the real world. I remember ALL that stuff, like everything that has ever happened over the last decade in HI. I did quit for a while actually, but I found something promising that kind of brought me back and hoping I can help BRING a real HI product to the masses instead of waiting for someone else to.

You’re quite the introspective individual now man. I mean you still have the ‘end of every episode of Doogie Howser’ type moments in which you reflect on what you’ve learned…same old guy. The part about getting older though…deep but I mean OUCH…I mean I’m a bit older than you are man. Good to see you learned from your mistakes and can look back on those days sort of fondly. And yeah, kudos on not killing yourself.

So you still looking to grow now?

from Network 54 LL

September 2 2009 at 5:13 AM

Dude its Me widlranger15 aka Anthony 
you were saving up for microincission in china man the good old days, Im still persuing Height Increase Ive seen results with ankle weights now my interest are in traction tables Creatine Vinegar and glucosamine and chondrontinNewho if you wanna catch bro in pm or On aim I will see you around

im 23 now aswell

hi Marcus… questions…

September 5 2009 at 1:16 AM

Hi MarcusCamby23,do you still have the super Hi-jack machine?… I know you don’t use it anymore so do you mind giving that away or maybe selling that?… If you are going to sell it, I will be willing to buy it and negotiate the price.

I would love to use this.

Please respond.

Thank you happy.gif

Double Holy Crap

September 22 2009 at 2:25 PM

l0ck n l0ad 

Anyway I’m very happy to see you are doing well and thank Gosh you didn’t end your life. I wish you the best of luck in your sports career and life in general and you’ll drop by again some time. Peace.

I always

September 24 2009 at 3:37 PM


crack a smile whenever I see your login name…

I never catch you online anymore. You ever go on yahoo perhaps?


January 25 2010 at 10:28 AM

welcome back me

Same here

September 26 2009 at 9:10 AM

l0ck n l0ad 
Whenever I enter my username to login it also makes me crack a smile.I still have my old yahoo e-mail, only that it gets spammed by my beloved family members with crap jokes they keep forwarding me, I still keep that e-mail but rarely use it. I have a new email which I check more often I’ll let you know later on.

Me: The truth is that life will move on. You will one day move on from this endevaor, and you will forget about this site too. You will. I promise you that one day you will forget 99% of everything you learned from reading this site about all the weird biomedical innovations going on. You will one day stop desiring to increase your height.

Forums Die…Ideas Die… Movements and Fads Die… Even Entire Civilizations and Nations Die…We Will Die…

In 10 years you will have moved on and forgotten about this site…And in 10 years the human civilization would still not have found a solution to the ancient human dilemma of their natural born height or size. 

–Don’t you think that after 2,000,000 of human evolution and human trials and tribulations, experiments and ideas, fads and innovation, someone would have already figure out the trick or technique to grow taller?? —

My point is if there was an easy or simple way to grow taller, someone in our ancestor’s historical past would have figured it out by now. So why has there not been something discovered yet?

What I hope from you as the reader is that when you are so focused on this idea that you MUST increase your height, please always keep the bigger picture in mind. Never forget that increasing your height should be only part of the whole picture, not the entire picture.

How can that be? Isn’t it supposed to be the most important thing in your life? Maybe it is right now, but I can almost guarantee to you the reader that the reason you want to grow taller is NOT because you feel shorter than other people, it is because you want to be loved, and you are not getting the type of love and emotional bond and support that you crave so deeply inside. Often it is because we feel like there is no one there to truly love us for who we are at our most core leve, however almost always, it is because we never learned how to love ourselves. What we really lack is a love for ourselves.

I hope to all of you, men and women, that one day you will find someone who you can love with all of your heart and who loves you back as much as you love them. When that day comes along, you will forget all this talk about trying to grow taller. It will seem irrelevant, because the center of your life will be on something else. I can assure you that the day you find your true love (whether it is someone else or yourself) or the day you become a mother or father for the first time, you will forget this site. That is okay. I want you to move on to a better life, because you deserve it. You don’t need to suffer through the constant daily frustration of desiring to make this change within yourself.

I ask that you however just wait it out, live your life ,and hope that the scientists and researchers will be able to find that “magic bullet” one day. You may never be able to receive the treatment but if you ever have children, it might be available for them. They will never have to go through the same type of mental and emotional hell you had to endure and deal with .

Technology is changing the way we live, and the way we behave. It used to be that people could stay in one career field, one job their entire life. They start at a major company fro the very bottom, work themselves slowly up the ranking, and once they reach the golden years, they could retire and get a pension. That does not happen anymore. There are far much more competation in your generation (I am assuming you are part of GEN Y or later). You are no longer just competing against your fellow Americans. You will have to compete against the millions upon millions of college graduates that come out of school in China, India, South Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil, and other developing countries. Do you really want to devote and spend years of your life focusing on trying to increase your body? Maybe it might be a better idea to focus on developing your mind, creating businesses and giving value.

When you can get your professional life fully handled, then come back and get involved. This endeavor will most likely take you away from the other important goals in your life. Make this only a side project.

I strongly suggest that you only view height increase and the possibility of growing taller in a passive role. I don’t believe it is worth it to put any of your time, energy, and effort in trying yourselves to find a solution.

I understand what it feels like when you are just 15 or 16 and you are shorter than your friends and maybe even the girls you like. It seems like the entire world is against you and you resent the fact that the world is so unfair.

This is the ultimate definition of true success. True success is that fact that when it is tested against the force and power of time, it holds and stands strong. If something is just a movement or fad, it will eventually crumble and disappear. If it is truly a great idea or movement, it’s influence and power will once increase over time.

Let me teach you one idea called Amara’s Law

Amara’s Law states that we almost always overestimate what we can accomplish in the short term and always underestimate what we can accomplish in the long term. 

I can almost bet money that if you spend 10-15 years of your life working and studying to find a solution to your height increase dream, you may not have anything to show for it at the end, and realize that it can not be accomplished. However, if you can put that type of energy, effort, and time towards your career, what you can accomplish and give to the world will be astronomical. In 10 years, you can become a doctor, maybe even a surgeon if you are a college grad. In 10 years, you could be married, have 3 kids, divorced, and remarried with another kid. 10 years in this modern age is a long time, with many big events that had occurred in your life.

My whole point is this: I suggest that you focus your energy, effort, and time on a goal that has more chance of progress, fruit, and rewards. Don’t sacrifice a chance to live a more full life in the pursuit of this dream which may turn out to be an illusion at the end. 

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