As a followup to a previous post about the possibility of using L-Dopa to Increase height, I mentioned at the end that I will be feeding my future children a lot of beans, specifically fava beans, broad beans, and velvet beans. Of the 3 types, the velvet bean is the most commonly mentioned one who is related to height increase.

When I did a search on google for the term “mucuna pruriens growth hormone” the results showed a few interesting links.

From Resource 1,

Scientific properties:

Mucuna pruriens contains 40mg/g of a compound called L-DOPA which is a direct precursor to the neurotransmitter dopamine. Dopamine works as one of the best natural hgh releasers (human growth hormone) by stimulating the pituitary gland to increase it’s production. High levels throughout life of the body’s own natural growth hormone (not hormones from the synthetic injections) is known as a major key for human longevity.

Dopamine also increases other youth hormones such as testosterone (it must be mentioned that these increases are never throwing the endocrine system out of balance, merely improving levels which tend to decrease over time in the average person). These resulting increased levels of these hormones from the use of mucuna pruriens extracts, powders and/or raw herbs explains its association with increasing libido, fertility, lean muscle mass, reducing signs of aging such as wrinkles and body fat, increasing bone density and even boosting overall energy levels.

Animal studies have shown powerful results such as a ten fold increase in mounting frequency by male rats! Also a decrease in post ejaculatory intervals have been observed, meaning that the animals being studied are more quickly able to return to “the task at hand”. This could be due to the fact that mucuna pruriens extract basically cures premature ejaculation and the amount of downtown between ejaculations by reducing hypersensitivity in the genitals.

L-DOPA from mucuna pruriens has been shown to be safer and more effective for controlling Parkinson’s disease than the pharmaceutical drugs Levodopa and Carbidopa. This is because the vast array of other chemical constituents that accompany L-DOPA in the unprocessed plant also play a role in its ability to manage Parkinson’s disease. Since Parkinson’s is in large part a deficiency of the neurotransmitter dopamine, this adaptogenic herb is crucial for anyone looking to manage this disease. It also looks to be very promising as a treatment for recovering drug addicts and people suffering from depression related illness, since these people have deficiencies of the neurotransmitters serotonin and dopamine (which the velvet beans contain and help balance in the human body).

When I was originally looking over Tyler’s LSJL method I felt that one part of the method was not completely satisfactorily explained. Or at least I couldn’t understand the step.

The step was from the idea of increasing the hydrostatic pressure in the medullary cavity to allow for more interstitial flow down the diaphysis. The Empirical data says that the measurement of flow was indicated by a voltage drop across the length of the long bone. I am not going to argue with the data and assume that the hydrostatic pressure was increased and there was an increase in flow of fluid through the inside of the bone.

Let’s also assume that because of the increasing flow the mesenchymal stem cells in the marrow area starts to turn into chondrocytes at a far greater rate. However, that still should not explain the longitudinal lengthening of the femur or tibia.  The boen is bone, and there is no growth plates to allow for any elasticity in the bone. The tensile strength is suppose to be around 100-150 MPa for long bone so it can’t stretch that much. In a previous post, I had shown that there can be tensile loading to the bone and it will do some deformation in the tensile direction before a clear fracture can be observed resulting in bone breaking. This can cause height increase.

However, my question is how it is possible for microscopic blob-like cells be able to push the cortical bone of the outer later appart from each other to allow for longitudinal lengthening. Can the cells just go to edge of the bone, push past the peristoreum, and push the bones and osteoblasts apart from each other? That just seems so unlike because of the amount of tensile strength ordinary bones seem to have. In a mechanics of materials loading test, the human bone is just as strong and tough as stell!!

This is why my suggestion is that even if the theory of LSJL is right and works, there must have been some fractures createed since cartilage no longer exists in the diaphysis region of the bone. For me, there has to be some bone distraction or bone breaking for height increase to begin.

How about you then: Do You believe bone distraction or bone breaking is always needed to increase height after the plates face turned from cartilage to bone.

One of the most commonly given tips I saw in the E-Books I read was that a person should avoid sleeping on thick pillows. The arguement was that when you sleep on a thick pillow, the extra thickness pushed your head up and your cervical vertebrate is slowly over time bend. The bending eventualy becomes permanent so you can’t revert back to the upright posture and you lose extra inches in height from a bad lifestyle choice.

In theory, it makes some sense by my personal opinion is that one should sleep with a thinner pillow. In the US and some other conutries, the pillow was always a very thick and hard object. I would assume that the original purpose of a pillow was to give the big human head a place to put to itself in comfort. If you have ever slept in a sleeping bag without a pillow for the first time, you might have noticed that the ground or bed was not as comfortable as with a pillow. Pillows are often made from cotton or feathers to give its soft and compressible material.

My overall opinion is to actually use a thinner pillow under your head. There is actually a natural curve to your vertebrate. There is a slight but noticeable hunch in most people’s backs that causes the heavy human head to be bend forward and the beck vertebrate to be bent forward. Anatomically, that is not the optimum body structure for height, but it still must be considered. In general, having a pillow to sleep with is more comfortable for one’s head for most people. If a person prefers to sleep lying on their side, they more likely will like a pillow to put their head since they have to take into consideration the length difference between where their shoulder begin and their head begins, which is usually around a 4-6 difference. If one however sleeps on their back or on their stomach, the pillow is less needed. However, with a thinner pillow the effects of the body’s natural reaction will be lessened. If you are not too old, the body can still be malleable enough to reverse the effects and manage to relax enough to put the head fully down thus improving one’s posture and increase height.

So, sleeping without a pillow will theoretically improve your posture and you can gain a little bit of extra height but only if you sleep on your back. If you slept on your stomach and did not twist your head, you would suffocate to death. If you sleep on your side, the removal of the pillow will do nothing and you will only be sleeping in less comfort than before. Go with the thinner pillow to rest the head and allow for the padding thickness since one’s back is supposed to be curved slightly in the neck region.

There are also the possibility for some people to claim that homeopathic remedies and methods can be used by someone to increase height. In general, the term “homeopathic” is defined by resource 1 as….

What are Homeopathics?

Homeopathic remedies (also called homeopathics) are a system of medicine based on three principles:

• Like cures like
  For example, if the symptoms of your cold are similar to poisoning by mercury, then mercury would be your homeopathic remedy.
• Minimal Dose
  The remedy is taken in an extremely dilute form; normally one part of the remedy to around 1,000,000,000,000 parts of water.
• The Single Remedy
  No matter how many symptoms are experienced, only one remedy is taken, and that remedy will be aimed at all those symptoms.

Similar principals forms the basis of conventional allergy treatment, where the allergic substance is given in a small dose, and in vaccines where an impotent form of the virus is given to bolster the immune system against that particular virus.

Why use Homeopathics?

Homeopathy is the second most widely used system of medicine in the world. Its growth in popularity in the United States has been around 25 to 50 percent a year throughout the last decade.

This success is fueled by several factors:

• Homeopathy is extremely effective. When the correct remedy is taken, results can be rapid, complete and permanent.
• Homeopathy is completely safe. Even babies and pregnant women can use Homeopathy without the danger of side effects. Homeopathic remedies can also be taken alongside other medication without producing unwanted side effects.
• Homeopathy is natural. Homeopathic remedies are normally based on natural ingredients.
• Homeopathy works in harmony with your immune system, unlike some conventional medicines which suppress the immune system. (For example, cough medicines suppress the cough reflex, which is your body’s attempt to clear the lungs)
• Homeopathic remedies are not addictive – once relief is felt, you should stop taking them. If no relief is felt, you are probably taking the wrong homeopathic remedy.
• Homeopathy is holistic. It treats all the symptoms as one, which in practical terms means that it addresses the cause, not the symptoms. This often means that symptoms tackled with Homeopathy do not recur.

Me: I grew up in a very scientifically oriented family. My parents both have graduate degrees in the hard sciences. We always treated medical pathologies as something which western medicine can cure. Because of that upbringing, I personally have a bias against using homeopathic methods or remedies to treat illnesses. I really hav not found any methods or idea on how to use homeopathic medicine to increase height or grow taller. 

From source 1, we learn one homeopathic solution given for height increase

Continue our 3 Homoeopathic medicine for 6 month and after that discontinued our medicine and your height start increases after 3month and gradually increases day by day naturaly at normal range.

1. Baryta Carb 30 thrice in a day
2. Silicea 12x 4 tab thrice in a day
3. and symphytum Q 5 drops twice in a day for 6 month 

Dr. D. Sharma

Me: In general, it does seem like many people do ask about the possibility of using homeopathic solutions and supplements to help the grow. There are some stories with results from they are from often young teenagers who probably still had their growth plates open. In general, there are formulas people prescribe, the most commonly one given above. I haven not tried out the formula myself to see if it even works though.

The last tip that people gave on a possible homeopathic solution was calcarea phosphorica, or calcium phosphate. As for taking Calcium Phosphate, I have not currently done the research.

I once wrote an article talking about the possibility of using reflexology to increase height. When the Yoko Height Increase insoles were reviewed, the theory behind how the yoko insoles work was from a blend of acupressure theory, reflexology, and magnetic field force. I personally have never done martial arts so I don’t know if the ancient theory if chi is true so acupressure is still untested. As for reflexology, I do know there are many foot massage places in my city and the subject they call their art is reflexology.

As for using magnets or magnetic theory to increase height and grow taller, I currently have not discovered any techniques or methods that claim to help people grow from the application of magnet theory or electromagnetism.

So, Nothing at this time. May be edited and added upon in the future.

This idea is also completely new to me since I never realized that L-Dopa could have such an affect. I first learned about L-Dopa only last year when I was sitting in on a neurobiology course where I learned about the anatomy, physiology, and mechanics of how the brain works. L-Dopa was supposed to be a precursor to dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, which is a precursor to tryptophan.

I forgot a lot about the effect of L-Dopa so I went to Wikipedia to refresh my memory on what it does (Source)

L-DOPA (L-3,4-dihydroxyphenylalanine) is a chemical that is made and used as part of the normal biology of some animals and plants. Some animals including humans make it via biosynthesis from the amino acid L-tyrosine. L-DOPA is the precursor to the neurotransmitters dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), andepinephrine (adrenaline) collectively known as catecholamines. L-DOPA can be manufactured and in its pure form is sold as a psychoactive drug with the INN levodopa; trade names include Sinemet, Parcopa, Atamet, Stalevo, Madopar, Prolopa, etc.). As a drug it is used in the clinical treatment of Parkinson’s diseaseand dopamine-responsive dystonia.

L-DOPA crosses the protective blood–brain barrier, whereas dopamine itself cannot. Thus, L-DOPA is used to increase dopamine concentrations in the treatment ofParkinson’s disease and dopamine-responsive dystonia. This treatment was originally developed by George Cotzias and his coworkers. Once L-DOPA has entered the central nervous system, it is converted into dopamine by the enzyme aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase, also known as DOPA decarboxylase (DDC).Pyridoxal phosphate (vitamin B₆) is a required cofactor in this reaction, and may occasionally be administered along with L-DOPA, usually in the form of pyridoxine.

Therapeutic use

Besides the central nervous system, L-DOPA is also converted into dopamine from within the peripheral nervous system. The resulting hyperdopaminergia causes many of the adverse side effects seen with sole L-DOPA administration. To bypass these effects, it is standard clinical practice to co-administer (with L-DOPA) a peripheral DOPA decarboxylase inhibitor (DDCI) such as carbidopa (medicines combining L-DOPA and carbidopa are branded as Lodosyn, Sinemet, Parcopa, Atamet, Stalevo) or with a benserazide (combination medicines are branded Madopar, Prolopa), to prevent the peripheral synthesis of dopamine from L-DOPA. Co-administration of pyridoxine without a DDCI accelerates the peripheral decarboxylation of L-DOPA to such an extent that it negates the effects of L-DOPA administration, a phenomenon that historically caused great confusion.

In addition, L-DOPA, co-administered with a peripheral DDCI, has been investigated as a potential treatment for restless leg syndrome. However, studies have demonstrated “no clear picture of reduced symptoms”.^[1]

The two types of response seen with administration of L-DOPA are:

• Short-duration response, which is related to the half-life of the drug
• Longer-duration response, which depends on the accumulation of effects over at least two weeks. This response is evident only in early therapy, as the inability of the brain to store dopamine is not yet a concern.

Dietary supplements

Herbal extracts containing L-DOPA are available. The most common plant source of L-DOPA marketed in this manner is Mucuna pruriens (velvet bean).^[2] The important amino acid called Tyrosine is a precursor to Levodopa and is also available over the counter. This supplement converts into Dopamine, Norepinephrine and Epinephrine as well.

Biological role

L-tyrosine by the enzyme tyrosine hydroxylase (TH). It is also the precursor for the monoamine or catecholamine neurotransmitters dopamine, norepinephrine (noradrenaline), and epinephrine (adrenaline). Dopamine is formed by the decarboxylation of L-DOPA.

L-DOPA can be directly metabolized by catechol-O-methyl transferase (COMT) to 3-O-methyldopa (3-OMD), and then further to vanillactic acid (VLA). This metabolic pathway is non-existent in the healthy body, but becomes important after peripheral L-DOPA administration in patients with Parkinson’s Disease or in the rare cases of patients with aromatic L-amino acid decarboxylase (AADC) enzyme deficiency.^[3]

The prefix L– references its property of levorotation (compared with dextrorotation or D-DOPA).

L-Phenylalanine, L-tyrosine, and L-DOPA, are all precursors to the biological pigment melanin. The enzyme tyrosinase catalyzes the oxidation of L-DOPA to the reactive intermediate dopaquinone, which reacts further, eventually leading to melanin oligomers.

Me: All that you need to know is that there is a supplement Tyrosine, which can convert into L-Dopa after you take it. However, we need to understand why and how L-Dopa has been theorized can help a person increase their height. 

From this HERE anti-aging site, they state very clearly …

“””It has been known for over 30 years that it is an effective stimulant of human growth hormone (HGH) release.”””

So what we see is that L-Dopa can be used to increase the release of HGH by the pituitary, resulting in possible height increase, and physiological anti-aging properties. What is even more amazing after this was what came next. 

“”“Hayek and Crawford reported that six out of seven “constitutionally short children” responded to oral L-dopa (200-500mg), “…with elevations in HGH concentration above 7mg/ml, peak levels occurring between 30 and 120 minutes after drug administration..”.””

So apparently the drug was administered by researchers decades ago to see whether they can increase the growth process and height of children which were genetically short. People understood that this could probably be used to increase height. The link suggest you take 500 mg oral of L-Dopa to see an effect of HGH release. 

As stated again….

“”The preceding studies illustrate some of the studies showing that 500mg oral L-dopa is an effective stimulator of HGH release. Whether a person is male or female, young or old, diabetic or not, thin or obese (possibly with Propranolol), a PD patient or not, L-dopa is a natural HGH-releasing agent when taken on an empty stomach. For those who can’t afford HGH injections, or just don’t like self-injecting,L-dopa may provide a reasonable alternative.”””

Me: THIS IS FUCKING HUGE!!! This means that even if we as physically mature adults can’t use this, we can theoretically give this to our kids and help them add height without going for the more painful and expensive HGH therapy approach. It is supposed to be safe because it is a naturally created amino acid from out own brains and body. 

One thing to note is that in general, L-Dopa has been used for the treatment of Parkinson’s Disease. It can be used for only a short time to stave off the effects of the myelin in our axons from disappearing, but once the body and neurons develop a tolerance of the effects of L-Dopa it stops working too since the progress of myelin sheath digeneration only continues to get worse.

From HGH Talk we learn that “…And two good sources of L-dopa are velvet beans (Mucuna pruriens) and broad beans (also called fava beans)”. I guess you might want to start eating a lot of beans to get the HGH going.

When I do a search on google with the phrase “l-dopa height” or “l-dopa height increase” the results are quite fascinating. and I mean INSANE results.

From one of the only credible height increase boards, the Impartial Height Increase Boards, from this discussion, the poster writes…

Well I have been taking 600 mg. L-Dopa along with 10 grams L-Arginine before bed for about 2 weeks. I am very pleased with the results that I have gained with this combination. And so far no side effects, and I do not think I will see any side effects. Well anyway the first week I started taking it I immediately noticed my feet were getting larger, and my slip on shoes did not fit me anymore after about 5-6 days. So then I started to realize how powerfull this combination really was. Well before I started with this stack I measured at 5’7, and now I am about 5’8. So I have gained a solid inch, and expecting to keep gaining more height. I also noticed another amazing thing for me was that my muscle mass and strength were increasing which is great for me because I am very into lifting. I lift real hard and heavy everyday to get bigger and stronger for football. I think so far this stack is taking my athletic performance to another level by increasing my height, and muscle mass. I am very pleased, and I will keep you guys posted in the next few weeks.

Me: So after two week of taking L-Dopa in combination with L-Arginine the guy increases by 1 inch!! Of course I don’t know how old this guy is and whether his plates are fused but even if it is not, I can bet you money that when I have kids, I am going to feed them a lot of fava beans and velvet beans.

The Dosage is 600 mg of L-Dopa with 10 g of L-Arginine before bed. The dosage is high and the other posters have said that it has some bad side effects and can lead to death. I say it is worth really looking into, even if it can cause death. In my opinion, this type of venture will always be filled with danger. You do have to break a few eggs to make a cake. The product is named “HGH Dopa 400”. It’s sold on many online stores.

One poster does note…

“”Very short kids are treated with HGH injections this works
because HGH goes straight into the bloodstream no problems with inhibiting factors of the liver,also Gonadotrophines (secreted by the Puitary Gland) still don’t play a role.When they do (Gonadotrophines),they stimulate your testicles to produce Testosterone,some growspurts will occur(very whimsical patterns differ from person to person,matter of genes)after that your bones are going to fuse also mainly caused by Testosterone (to make it not too complicated),end of story.(no further natural HI)””

Conclusion: This post is sort of a breakthrough post since it just created a completely new path in maybe naturally increasing our HGH release rate. It has been used on short statured children, and I will probably be feeding my future children with broad beans, velvet beans, and fava beans by the truckload if another easier way to increase height is not found in 10 years. They are going to have bean nightmares.