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Cartilage Growth Beyond Epiphyseal Plates, A Theory On How Pituitary Giants Grow And Definite Proof That Adults Can Still Grow

In the last real post I had done, I had talked about the interesting case of how Tanya Angus, a pituitary giant grew from the age of 20-30 from 5′ 8″ to 6′ 11″. Her standing height was “only” 6′ 6″ but her severe spine curvature led to a 5 inch lost height. I just couldn’t figure out how it is possible that someone could grow because the two fundamental ideas behind human growth seemed to go against each other.

I was walking on the street when a rather intuitive idea came to me. Follow my logic and tell me if it makes any sense.

The other person I previous mentioned in the previous post was this guy (Brown) who also suffered from acromegaly and he had grown to 6′ 3″ so I am guessing that being able to add height is a common occurrence among pituitary giants. Sow HOW? I remember reading that he was suffering from great knee pain . I know that knee injury is a very common form of injury and pain that happens to humans. Our joints are particularly sensitive to injury, like out knees, hips, and ankles. However, I also remembered what my father told me about my grandmother. My grandmother also suffered from great knee pain, but the knee pain was because she had lost all of her knee cartilage.  All she had was three bones, the femur and tibia with fibula rubbing against each other. So I combined the two ideas together.

< Here is my theory: Pituitary giants grow from using the cartilage at the end of long bones (aka articular cartilage), NOT the epiphyseal cartilage plates which have disappeared.  >

The pain the giants are going through is from the loss of cartilage in their joints (knees) since the cartilage has has to proliferate and expand.

If we look at the picture on the right we can see a picture of what the lower end of a femur looks like, which is filled with cartilage that is about 3-4 mm thick. Now, if we remember the characteristic and dimensions of an epiphyseal plate, it is also about 3-4 mm thick.

Remember that the current theory is that the epiphyseal cartilage after puberty and the signaling of estrogen slows the division of chondrocytes into new ones so the older ones diminish in number through calcification.  Let’s assume that theory is true. So that means that in theory, that area can no longer be a nest for longitudal bone growth. If we assume that new growth can not occur from bone, then we HAVe to find another place where cartilage exists. so what place is the closest to the old epiphyseal position that is cartilage? The obvious and easiest answer is the articular cartilage. The theory for adults is that most adults still have the articular cartilage needed to support and cushion their walking.


If we look at the 2nd picture on the left we can see the canal like wall the epiphyseal plates create between the long bone’s end and it’s middle section. The cartilage is a type of cartilage called hyaline and mostly made of collagen and water. Over time the lower type of cartilage disappears, but the top cartilage still remains. Now, we remember that we keep that cartilage until we are in our middle to late age so that cartilage never goes away.

The key to remember is that the articular cartilage plate and thickness is similar to the epiphyseal plates!

Since the pituitary giant is releasing as much HGH as possible into the liver and creating IGF-1 as much as possible, the HGH will try to go into any part that can possibly replicate. Since the cartilage in the knees is there, the growth factor causes that part to get bigger. This actually makes a lot of sense if we remember that for pituitary gland giants, the first thing they notice that gets bigger that they supposedly stopped growing was the hand and feet. If we remember our anatomy for our distals and tarsals, we remember that the hands have 14 joints, all filled with cartilage. The hands are getting bigger and longer, from using the cartilage at the end. There is still a thin layer in that cartilage to allow for chondrocyte multiplication.  

Where ever there is cartilage, there is growth. If we remember the picture of a skull, the adult human still has some cartilage in some areas of their skull, mostly in the area between the eyes and nose (the eyebrow ridge middle region, just look at a picture of Richard Kiel HERE). Then there is the cartilage close to the jaw area. If you look at the pituitary giant, that is where you really see the major difference in their faces and other normal people.

Let’s look at the hands of well know life coach Anthony Robbins,

 

Tony Robbins is well know for being one of the world’s most famous and best life coaches for the last 30 years. He is very well known for his 6′ 7″ figure which was only 5′ 3″ when he was 113 or 14. He grew like CRAZY from 14-16. If you see his hands, they are very big, but also proportional. Most people have given a joke saying that tony robbins has “banana hands” because of the size of his fingers. He is also a pituitary giant, but his benign tumor had shrank later in life so he did not need the surgery to correct for that.

So, the main point of this article is to show my theory that the way pituitary giants, and possibly other humans can still grow even through their adult years is to use the cartilage still left at the ends of their long bones.

Then, I suggest then to start taking calcium with Vitamin D3 and Glucosamine with Chondroitin to make sure the cartilage stays around and is thick and strong.

Tanya Angus Is Proof That Height Increase Is Possible After Epiphyseal Plate Ossification

In a previous post entitled “Sultan Kosen Is Proof That Height Increase Is Possible After Growth Plate Ossification” I had tried to prove that height increase apparently is still possible after growth plate ossification by looking at the current tallest man in the world as an example. Kosen is the typical pituitary gland giant and what I tried to prove was that from the age of 27 to 29, when his plates should have fused and longitudal long bone growth not allowed, Kosen still somehow managed to add 2 inches in extra height.

The problem with this huge issue is that there is a big information gap and knowledge problem between the general population and people like us on here who are regular readers and height increase researchers. For the average person on the street who hears the facts that a pituitary giant was still growing even in his late 20s while suffering from acromegaly, that make total sense to them. What they have heard and have been taught is that thire pituitary gland is just releasing far much more HGH converted into IGF-1 into their body and that causes their bones to grow.

The other thing the average person would have learned about growth is that the main reason people can increase their bones and thus grow is because they have these cartilages on the ends of their long bones. These cartilage grow longer from increased absorption of calcium, vitamin D, and HGH. Once one past the puberty age, something in the body tells the cartilage to stop getting bigger, and it shrinks and disappears eventually turning into bone. After that is done, one can not grow taller anymore.

So this is the basic education on height increase and growth the average person on the street knows (if that). However, the problem with the average education is that the 2 fundamental ideas directly contradict themselves!

We knew that Kosen was suffering still an excess release of HGH up until he was 29 when a brain operation was done to remove the tumor to stop the excess HGH release. The general news report was that his growth finally stopped. However ,how could Kosen grow with his plates closed, since he was in his late 20s? That question is what got me wondering whether there is something lacking in the fundamental understanding of hieght and growth by endocrinologists, orhtopedics , and height increase researchers like me. I posed the original post and there was one reply to it by Minigolf which claimed that Kosen probably was transgenic for having growth plates that either did not suffer from or suffered at a far lower rate of senescence (the biological process of aging). I would have gone with that arguement and believed that maybe, just maybe Kosen was special even for pituitary giants in that his growth plates were also very extraordinary, if not for the fact that many pituitary giants seems to go through the same problem.

If we remember back to one of my earliest posts, about the unique case of Adam Rainer located HERE, there was 1 critical piece of information that I forgot to mention! It was not by intention I forgot about this critical element, I really did forget. I read from a source (I can’t find it right now) that Rainer apparently suffered a big fall around the age of 21 or and cracked his head open. His brain was injured and that is one rumor on why adam started to grow. The obvious guess is that his pituitary gland was affected in that fall and that led to a lifetime of excess HGH release. 


Now, I wanted to move on to the subject of Tanya Angus. She is quite possibly the most famous case in current of a person who went through something quite extraordinary. The sites and resources I used are Tanya’s Main Website, ABC NEWS (from May 2011), ABC NEWS (from August 2010), ABC Nightline (from March 2010) MSNBC (from June 2009), and the Daily Mail UK (2009).

The general story is that Tanya Angus was an ordinary girl from Nevada who grew at a normal rate. She seemed to have reached her maximum height of 5′ 8″ and 140 lbs when she was at age 18. Now that is a perfectly reasonable height for an american caucasian female. Between the ages of 20 (which is when she started to grow again) and 31, Tanya went from 5 feet 8 inches tall and weighing 140 pounds to 6 feet 6 inches and weighing 430 pounds. So my big question is ” How is that possible??”

Now, if we look through the news about her and their prospective dates, we realize something amazing. Her height was reported at 6′ 6″ in 2009. By 2010 her height was reported at 6′ 11″. So how did she grow 5 inches in 1 year from her 30th to 31st birthday?

From doing a little more research it appears that her measured height is 6′ 6″ but her curved spine hides the other 5 inches, at least stated by her mother. So maybe Angus didn’t go through another 5 inch growth spurt… The news clearly state that she is suffering from acromegaly, which is the condition developed after one reaches past puberty who used to suffer from gigantism. The news stated that she was STILL growing.

She has been taking a new medication called Somatuline and that has taken her growth hormone rate from 1000 to 600. 300 is considered stable for her.

“”Acromegaly Affects Organs, Too

“The tumor has been growing from the time Tanya hit puberty,” said Strutynski. “Her back is collapsing due to the overgrowth. As she grows her bones weaken and they break down. She is so big, her spine looks like a boomerang.” – “”

From one of the ABC sorces we learn about another guy who suffered from Acromegaly, Wayne Brown.


The group was founded by Wayne Brown, a former history teacher from Buffalo, N.Y., who suffered from years with jaw pain before he was diagnosed with acromegaly in 2004.

Brown, 38, recently published a book, “Alone in My Universe: Struggling With an Orphan Disease in an Unsympathetic World,” which is a compilation of his story and those of others.

“Orphan diseases are the stepchild of the medical industry,” he said. “Because of that, our people get ignored and run over.”

By the time, he sought help, Brown had grown to 6-foot 3-inches tall and gained more than 100 pounds. His shoe size had jumped from a 12 to a 16EEE and his blood pressure was at a high of 160 over 100.

His growth is now under control, but he still has chronic joint pain. “It gets really rough some days,” said Brown.

He administers a subcutaneous shot of growth inhibitor once every four weeks.


So is it that another guy with acromegaly grew as well, just like Angus or Kosen. All of these cases has people who were supposed to have sealed long bones. Somehow they still grew extra inches! If you want to check out Brown’s book, buy it and tell me how tall Wayne Brown was before he started on his growth spurt, and at what age. I can almost assure you that he was probably in his mid to late 20s at least and that most doctors would have said his bones were sealed. So where did his height come from? Note the fact that he still gets joint pain from the growth tendencies.

Something is not making any sense right now. Our current knowledge on what is possible and how height can increased must be changed. Angus apparently grew 3 inches from the age of 20 to 22, which is a very noticeable difference when you are not supposed to grow anymore. So can anyone explain to me what is going on?

This is my conclusion: The current model on how we think of height growth, that one can not grow taller after the epiphyseal plate are sealed, is wrong. Even after our growth plates are gone, we still can grow. 

Unemployment, Money Issues, and Passing On This Legacy Project

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This message is from my heart and I hope it reaches to your heart.

I wanted to make a few more confessions. I currently don’t have a job that is making me any income. I started a small consulting company early in the year that does private coaching for men on their insecurities and I have had only 4 clients, all of them non paying. I look at that venture and understand that it is not a success, but I refuse to call it a failure , at least not yet. There is still a lot more work to do in that business idea so it is incomplete and I will eventually get back into that after this project is developed to a magnitude that it can move forward on its own momentum.

I am currently taking a complete break away from developing my primary company and business to build this website to something that is reasonably informative and good so that people looking for solution can find this website. I have not put any ads on the site, no affiliate links, no marketing, way to monetize it. However, I don’t know how long I can keep doing this. I only have savings for 1 year and it is running out. If I don’t find a way to bring in money, I will have to divert my focus and energy away from this topic and website, which is something I don’t want to do.

I have had this deep desire for at least a few years in the desire to create a type of website or resource for people who wanted to learn about how to grow taller. Now that I finally have given myself permission to take the plunge and go into this project with full intensity and passion. For the last month or so all that I have done is type and write about this subject. I have become so tired sometimes and I always tell myself that I need to take a break from it all, at least for a few days. However, no matter how many times I tell myself that I should slow down and take a break, I can never do it.

This subject creates such a strong passion inside of me. When I think or talk about this subject, I can feel the passion come out of me. I know this subject is something I can talk nonstop about and never feel bored over. I will do this project for free, but I really wish I could be paid a little bit for it. I am looking for either a one time small donation of $10 ($20 if you are feeling generous) or a donation of $1 ($2 if you are feeling generous) on a monthly basis. The donations goes to a personal PayPal account of mine and I will use all of the money to pay for the operating fees for this project. You can cancel anytime you want or when you feel like this site is no longer providing the type of great value you used to have.

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Thank You Tyler Christopher Davis aka Minigolf Of HeightQuest.Com

I have only been on this crazy little project of mine for only a little over 5 weeks now but after searching the entire internet, at least the ones that are written in English, your website heightquest.com is quite possibly the one true resources that is still going strong and active. All the other resources have slowed or died down in activity and being able to produce and find true and great content.

When I look at the boards on say Giant Scientific, or The Impartial Height Message Board, or HeightForum, or MakeMeTaller, I can see that all of the discussions and possible normal and common questions and answers have all already been answered, at least a dozen times over. I mean, how many times can I keep seeing and reading the same type of message…”I am a 19 year old boy who is 5’5″ and want to grow taller. What can I do? Can I still increase in height?” – This is the average post and we all already know the answer, and what to say. Most often however, we say something kind and PC, so as not to hurt the person too much or destroy their hopes. I never want to be that kind of person who goes around destroying the dreams and hopes of others.

Your dedication in your “quest” is something I admire and I wanted to thank. Without some of the articles and ideas you have found and written about , I would have never know that certain ideas for height increase even existed. You can definitely opened my eyes to what is truly possible. One of the earliest posts I ever wrote about was all of the current options that were available at this time. I found an article written by Sam Snyder on his blog talking about your site and all of the ideas you have found located HERE.

I am amazed at what the list showed. When I first saw the list, I was quite confused and unknowledgeable about many of the techniques and method listed like “Using ultrasound, shock wave therapy, and electrical/electromagnetic stimulation to enhance bone formation” or “Injecting mesenchymal stem cells to influence differentiation of bone and muscle cells”. It took me a while to do some mor research and definitely some reading of scientific journal articles to understand where Sam or you were coming from. Now I understand.

I remember maybe 3 or 4 years ago finding your website when I was randomly googling for random stuff. I still remember your website and I thought the title “Quest For Height” was clever, and that you might have a unhealthy obsession towards such a goal which I didn’t think was achievable, at least at that time. Now I know. Now I can kind of see what you see.

Tyler, I know one day you will have to give up on this endeavor. I don’t expect you to keep on doing this for another 10, 20 years. You may move on but the ideas an methods you proposed will be around for someone else to take up and run with. Thank you for being one of the only resources available that I could actually look to to get a truly realistic and scientific approach to this problem. You started your website on this idea and I will continue the endeavor until someone else can come along with the same type of passion, commitment, and persistence to keep searching and learning.

I don’t expect to keep on doing this for the rest of my life, but I will try to keep on writing insightful, detailed, and useful articles as much as I can. I am afraid already that one day I will run out of useful stuff to say. One day I may not find or have another good subject to talk about, because everything that can be said has already been said.

This niche of height increase is not big, unlike weight loss. With weight loss, there seems to be a new diet or fad idea every few years. There are nearly millions, if not hundreds of millions of people who are already writing about their weight lose program or schedule on their own personal blogs, but those probably only gets read by themselves, and 3 close friends. What we write about is soooooo much harder to do, so much more difficult to find a solution for.

You are at least 3-4 years ahead of me on knowledge on what is going on in the scientific community. I still have at least another 100 ideas, methods, and product to look through and review at least. That will last me at least a few years. It seems like every day I hear about a new product or method being mentioned. But I will get to it. I will one day be able to review every crazy idea on height increase on the internet, and maybe in the world. I know, I sound like Sergey and Larry when back in 1996 in their Stanford dormrooms and believed that they could collect all of the data and information from the world wide web and organize them all in a orderly way. I think this niche is small enough that only 1 person (maybe 2 people) can do all of the work. I can’t imagine the whole subject area being more than say 1000 posts. I just past 180 posts after 5 and a half weeks. If I keep on going at this rate, I should be able to cover all of this topic in less than 2 years, even if the rate at which I produce articles and posts decrease by 50%. Like I stated before on a previous post, I want this site to be the first place people find on their google rankings when they type in something like “how to grow taller”. I want the people to be informed, and wise on what is possible.

 

Memories and Thoughts After 8 Years, A True Warning For All Height Seekers

<<WARNING: Please, , Please, PLEASE , If there is one post I would want you, the prospective height increase seaker to read, this RIGHT HERE is the one article/post I would want you to read out of all the other posts on this site!!>>

Something I have stated many times over and warned about to many height increase seekers is to realize that there may be two very bad end results that can come about if one stays on this path or this endeavor for too long.

1. After many years and years of frustration, trials, scams, and failures one finally gives up and accepts that they will never be able to grow any taller than what they are at now.

2. They try so hard on one idea or method that they actually manage to hurt themselves, either in their knees, ankles, or back. That leads to a chronic and increasing severe joint problem filled with pain.

I found a post from the Impartial Height Increase Message Board (found HERE) where a poster of the name MarcusCamby23 made a few comments that really, and I mean REALLY sobering and depressing comments which has really stuck to me.


One of the Original Pioneers (back after 5 years)

August 25 2009 at 6:47 AM

MarcusCamby23  
I think I was about 14 years old back in 2000 or 2001 when I started posting on these sites. It all began on another network 54 forum and then one day in early 2002 Joey decided to make his own forum since the original one was getting out of hand. This was over 7 1/2 years ago. My how time flies. I really can’t believe it. Back then I was a motivated High School basketball player out of New York doing every method in order to grow taller, no matter how ridiculous or far fetched it seemed or looked. That was back then as a freshman and it progressed into my homelessness right out of high school and then eventually at the age of 18 going to Chongqing, China in order to get a Limb Lengthening surgery. I went, but I never got it. 5 years has passed since I visited China and even more has passed as me along with a couple others that no longer visit this forum started it all. (Back then we were all a tight knit group giving support to each other in our quest to find the solution to our dilemma. The only thing that I can say that may have any chance of working is constant hanging, inversion and taking Chrysin pills if your epiphysis haven’t fused yet. Also sleeping with weights using the Tigga method might have given me a millimeter or so, but I highly do not recommend it as it has given me permanent hip and knee damage. I also do not recommend buying the super high jack. I slept with this machine and it has permanently ruined my lower back and caused me to have a slipped disk or some kind of severe back problem that makes it nearly impossible to get out of bed if it is aggravated with a wrong movement. I was 14 back then and now I am 23 years old and still trying to make it with basketball. Joey, it was nice to see that you still maintain this site. Looking back at all of those posts, it’s kind of bittersweet to go back in time in a sense and see the things that I talked about back then. In a way it brings me back to those fall, winter and spring afternoons when I would rush home from school to posts on these sites. I’ve come a long way since then. I knew then that in the future I would be where I am now, yearning to be where I once was. In retrospect I would do many things all over again, but with more attention focused on developing my athletic skills and not so much my height. At 6’4″ I don’t think I did so bad. Well, good luck to all of you. I would say your best bet is to take chrysin if your growth plates or epiphysis haven’t fused yet along with stretching, yoga and regular exercise.MarcusCamby23

heard of…

August 25 2009 at 11:58 AM

sky  
heard of your name before but i didn’t see any recent posts.
God bless your 6’4″sky
www.easyheight.com

Holy Crap

August 25 2009 at 2:40 PM

Joey 
DUUUUUUUDE!!!!!

I’m surprised you’re still alive…like LITERALLY

It’s been forever dude. I remember you wanting to be 6’10 so you could make the nba. I remember you were deadset on getting LL surgery, once even saying after high school you were gonna be a bartender to make money to save up for it, how you hated your mom…ummm…how you once took like dozens of GH releasing aminos and hoping ‘You didn’t wake up the next morning’ etc.

So how’s it been man? Glad to see you’ve come to terms with where you are now.

Re: One of the Original Pioneers (back after 5 years)

August 25 2009 at 8:13 PM

MarcusCamby23 
wow, you have a great memory to be remembering all of that. It’s amazing that you are still around after practically a decade has gone by. I would have thought that by now you would have lost your interest in gaining height and would have moved on, but it’s nice to see you’re still around to help others that are just starting off as we did back then. Knowing you, I was expecting to still see you back.I don’t recommend that anyone sleep with weights hanging from a chin up bar that are attached to your legs via inversion boots. If you’re lucky enough to wake up within 3 hours you will find that your legs have lost total circulation and feeling. It gets so bad that a 25 pound weight fell on my foot right after I got out of bed andI thought the lower half of my body was dead because I didn’t feel it. If this had happened in normal conditions any normal person would have yelled in agony. Like I said lucky enough I woke up within 3 hours and not after a full nights rest or else I may not have legs today. In conclusion I think Tigga lied about having had grown 6 inches by having weights hanging from his legs. I knew that he was full of it by using common sense, but I decided to give it a try anyway.Yeah in January ’04 I got my bartending license in New York City. By the end of my junior year I already had enough credits to graduate, but I only needed certain glasses to satisfy the graduation requirements. By January of ’04 I was done with school and only had to await my June ’04 graduation. I must have gone to the city about 6-8 hours a day walking from uptown to downtown handing out resumes, but as the old saying goes “it’s not what you know, but who you know” I eventually landed a job in May of ’04. I got it from a friend that I made at the gym. By that time I had already saved up thousands from a job I already had. Therefore, I worked simultaneously every single day maintaining two jobs and hitting the weightroom 5 times a week. At that time I was 180 – 185 pounds and 6’4″. I am now 205 – 215lbs.Yeah I still do hate my mom, but I am accepting the past better. Back then I couldn’t imagine life still being 6’4″ because I was so fixated on being that 6’10” guy that would stand out among all others on the basketball court and in day to day public interections. It took me many years and hitting rock bottom to finally come to terms with my height and with the way things are and have been. YEah, I still remember that day I took bottles of amino acids hoping that I wouldn’t be alive the next day. Yeah, it’s has been a struggle for years and it is still is. At this point the only thing that can keep one going is hope that possibly one day things will change and get better, even if they never do.

Below I attached some pictures of how I was then and how I am now. It shows a slow progression of how we age. It find it to be very sad, but it’s the reality of life. Just because we all age externally we shouldn’t forget how we started and we shouldn’t compromise the essense of who we were when we first started out at this life. I have talked to people I was best friends with growing up as a child and I can’t even recognize them anymore. It’s as if they have completely forgotten the past and who they were and the meaningful reltionship we once had. Their childlike demeanor and the way they behaved in the world has been completely lost and replaced by something I can’t recognize. I guess it is true that relationships are like seasons and some last longer than others, but eventually they change and move on and so must we.

High School Graduation June 2004, 18 years old and 5 months
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November 2006, 20 years old and 10 months
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June 2007, 21 years old and 5 months
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July 2008, 22 years old and 6 months
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Same old MC23

August 26 2009 at 12:45 AM

Joey 

 Hopefully you still play because you want to and you love it….and not disgruntled like I am. I mean your best days are still in front of you.

Yeah, I have an excellent memory…especially when it comes to random information that can’t help me in the real world. I remember ALL that stuff, like everything that has ever happened over the last decade in HI. I did quit for a while actually, but I found something promising that kind of brought me back and hoping I can help BRING a real HI product to the masses instead of waiting for someone else to.

You’re quite the introspective individual now man. I mean you still have the ‘end of every episode of Doogie Howser’ type moments in which you reflect on what you’ve learned…same old guy. The part about getting older though…deep but I mean OUCH…I mean I’m a bit older than you are man. Good to see you learned from your mistakes and can look back on those days sort of fondly. And yeah, kudos on not killing yourself.

So you still looking to grow now?

from Network 54 LL

September 2 2009 at 5:13 AM

Dude its Me widlranger15 aka Anthony 
you were saving up for microincission in china man the good old days, Im still persuing Height Increase Ive seen results with ankle weights now my interest are in traction tables Creatine Vinegar and glucosamine and chondrontinNewho if you wanna catch bro in pm or On aim I will see you around

im 23 now aswell

hi Marcus… questions…

September 5 2009 at 1:16 AM

jeremy 
Hi MarcusCamby23,do you still have the super Hi-jack machine?… I know you don’t use it anymore so do you mind giving that away or maybe selling that?… If you are going to sell it, I will be willing to buy it and negotiate the price.

I would love to use this.

Please respond.

Thank you happy.gif

Double Holy Crap

September 22 2009 at 2:25 PM


l0ck n l0ad 

Anyway I’m very happy to see you are doing well and thank Gosh you didn’t end your life. I wish you the best of luck in your sports career and life in general and you’ll drop by again some time. Peace.

I always

September 24 2009 at 3:37 PM

Joey  

crack a smile whenever I see your login name…

I never catch you online anymore. You ever go on yahoo perhaps?

hi

January 25 2010 at 10:28 AM


ano 
welcome back me

Same here

September 26 2009 at 9:10 AM


l0ck n l0ad 
Whenever I enter my username to login it also makes me crack a smile.I still have my old yahoo e-mail, only that it gets spammed by my beloved family members with crap jokes they keep forwarding me, I still keep that e-mail but rarely use it. I have a new email which I check more often I’ll let you know later on.

Me: The truth is that life will move on. You will one day move on from this endevaor, and you will forget about this site too. You will. I promise you that one day you will forget 99% of everything you learned from reading this site about all the weird biomedical innovations going on. You will one day stop desiring to increase your height.

Forums Die…Ideas Die… Movements and Fads Die… Even Entire Civilizations and Nations Die…We Will Die…

In 10 years you will have moved on and forgotten about this site…And in 10 years the human civilization would still not have found a solution to the ancient human dilemma of their natural born height or size. 

–Don’t you think that after 2,000,000 of human evolution and human trials and tribulations, experiments and ideas, fads and innovation, someone would have already figure out the trick or technique to grow taller?? —

My point is if there was an easy or simple way to grow taller, someone in our ancestor’s historical past would have figured it out by now. So why has there not been something discovered yet?

What I hope from you as the reader is that when you are so focused on this idea that you MUST increase your height, please always keep the bigger picture in mind. Never forget that increasing your height should be only part of the whole picture, not the entire picture.

How can that be? Isn’t it supposed to be the most important thing in your life? Maybe it is right now, but I can almost guarantee to you the reader that the reason you want to grow taller is NOT because you feel shorter than other people, it is because you want to be loved, and you are not getting the type of love and emotional bond and support that you crave so deeply inside. Often it is because we feel like there is no one there to truly love us for who we are at our most core leve, however almost always, it is because we never learned how to love ourselves. What we really lack is a love for ourselves.

I hope to all of you, men and women, that one day you will find someone who you can love with all of your heart and who loves you back as much as you love them. When that day comes along, you will forget all this talk about trying to grow taller. It will seem irrelevant, because the center of your life will be on something else. I can assure you that the day you find your true love (whether it is someone else or yourself) or the day you become a mother or father for the first time, you will forget this site. That is okay. I want you to move on to a better life, because you deserve it. You don’t need to suffer through the constant daily frustration of desiring to make this change within yourself.

I ask that you however just wait it out, live your life ,and hope that the scientists and researchers will be able to find that “magic bullet” one day. You may never be able to receive the treatment but if you ever have children, it might be available for them. They will never have to go through the same type of mental and emotional hell you had to endure and deal with .

Technology is changing the way we live, and the way we behave. It used to be that people could stay in one career field, one job their entire life. They start at a major company fro the very bottom, work themselves slowly up the ranking, and once they reach the golden years, they could retire and get a pension. That does not happen anymore. There are far much more competation in your generation (I am assuming you are part of GEN Y or later). You are no longer just competing against your fellow Americans. You will have to compete against the millions upon millions of college graduates that come out of school in China, India, South Korea, Iran, Russia, Brazil, and other developing countries. Do you really want to devote and spend years of your life focusing on trying to increase your body? Maybe it might be a better idea to focus on developing your mind, creating businesses and giving value.

When you can get your professional life fully handled, then come back and get involved. This endeavor will most likely take you away from the other important goals in your life. Make this only a side project.

I strongly suggest that you only view height increase and the possibility of growing taller in a passive role. I don’t believe it is worth it to put any of your time, energy, and effort in trying yourselves to find a solution.

I understand what it feels like when you are just 15 or 16 and you are shorter than your friends and maybe even the girls you like. It seems like the entire world is against you and you resent the fact that the world is so unfair.

This is the ultimate definition of true success. True success is that fact that when it is tested against the force and power of time, it holds and stands strong. If something is just a movement or fad, it will eventually crumble and disappear. If it is truly a great idea or movement, it’s influence and power will once increase over time.

Let me teach you one idea called Amara’s Law

Amara’s Law states that we almost always overestimate what we can accomplish in the short term and always underestimate what we can accomplish in the long term. 

I can almost bet money that if you spend 10-15 years of your life working and studying to find a solution to your height increase dream, you may not have anything to show for it at the end, and realize that it can not be accomplished. However, if you can put that type of energy, effort, and time towards your career, what you can accomplish and give to the world will be astronomical. In 10 years, you can become a doctor, maybe even a surgeon if you are a college grad. In 10 years, you could be married, have 3 kids, divorced, and remarried with another kid. 10 years in this modern age is a long time, with many big events that had occurred in your life.

My whole point is this: I suggest that you focus your energy, effort, and time on a goal that has more chance of progress, fruit, and rewards. Don’t sacrifice a chance to live a more full life in the pursuit of this dream which may turn out to be an illusion at the end. 

Increase Height And Grow Taller Using Human Growth Complex

When I was doing research and reviewing the product called Helpo Growth Formula I found another supplement that seems to be similar in its function. So I did what any guy who spends over 16 hours a day online would do. I typed the words “Human Growth Complex” into google to see what was said about it. It turned out I was wrong about the advertised function of this supplement compound. There was quite a few legitimate online stores selling this supplement and I will list them here as resources.

Resource 1 – A1 Supplements , Resource 2 – Livestrong.com , Resource 3-  fitFLEX , Resource 4 – MASS NUTRITION

Here is what the product is actually intended to do, not the height increase that I thought it was advertised to do. (From Resource 1 & Resource 4)


Ultra Lab Nutrition, specializing in the most powerful legal sports nutrition supplements on the market, presents its newest anabolic… Human Growth ComplexTM… a powerful compound specifically formulated to accelerate muscle growth and recovery through Homeopathic means. This product is manufactured under the stringent guidelines of the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States (H.P.U.S.)

The homeopathic medications in Human Growth Complex work in synergy to accelerate muscle growth and recovery without the adverse side effects normally attributed to illegal anabolics. Faster muscle recovery means faster, easier muscle growth. For those individuals who have difficulty in gaining weight, Human Growth Complex stimulates appetite and aids the body in nutrient absorption. Of special interest to strength athletes is the fact that Human Growth Complex dramatically strengthens connective tissue including ligaments and tendons. Stronger connective tissue leads to immediate strength increases. Other benefits derived from Human Growth Complex include supporting healthy muscles and joints, increased energy and stamina, and greater concentration and focus. (Resource 1)


Lift Your Youthfulness And Accelerate Muscle Growth And Recovery!

Human Growth Complex and Human Growth Hormone – HGH – supplements for muscle building and strength enhancement are an integral part of any athlete’s training program. Human Growth Complex can aid in achieving maximum muscle growth and muscle strength without harmful anabolic steroids or illegal black market steroid products. Get the most out of your training program!!! Train using a regular regimen of homeopathic nutritional products from Ultra Lab for maximum weight gain and muscle growth. Many athletes spend valuable time at a gym or other training facility and want to get the most out of their bodybuilding and fat loss training regimen. That’s where bodybuilding supplements come in. In order to burn fat, gain weight and build muscle with maximum efficiency, fitness training, strength training and bodybuilding regimens must look toward Human Growth Complex and human growth hormone – HGH – for help.

Benefits of Human Growth Hormone Supplements

The homeopathic ingredients in Human Growth Complex work in synergy to accelerate muscle growth and recovery without the adverse side effects normally attributed to harmful anabolic steroids. Faster muscle recovery means faster, easier muscle growth. For those individuals who have difficulty in gaining weight, Human Growth Complex stimulates appetite and aids the body in nutrient absorption. Of special interest to strength athletes is the fact that Human Growth Complex dramatically strengthens connective tissue including ligaments and tendons. Stronger connective tissue leads to immediate strength increases. Other benefits derived from Human Growth Complex include a reduction in pain and inflammation in muscles and joints, increased energy and stamina, and greater concentration and focus. (Resource 4)


Me: Here are the facts on the facts, ingredients, and the directions on how to use the supplement

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Tablet Servings Per Container: 126

Amount Per Serving:

Active Ingredients: Somatrophine (gh) 12x, gonadostimuline 12x, orchitinum (testicle) 12x, adrenal gland 12x, thyroidinum 12x, bone marrow 14x, bone marrow, cortisone aceticum 14x, saw palmetto 6x, tribulus terrestris 6x, caladium seguinum 8x, agnus castus 8x, alfalfa 6x, RNA 12x DNA 12x, avena sativa 6x, damiana 6x.

Inactive Ingredients: Dextrose, magnesium stearate, silica.

None of the ingredients in this product are derived from bovine (cow) sources.

Directions: Chew 1 tablet three times daily. Desirable times to use the product would be in the morning, afternoon and evening on an empty stomach. Avoid food and hot beverages within 15 minutes before and after use.

Me: The reviews on this product are in general very good.  The 5 main benefits the supplement claims to give the user are

1. Muscle Gaining

2. Strength Gaining

3. Increase In Energy

4. Increased ability to burn fat

5. More youthful feel 

So for 1 bottle which consist of 126 tablets you pay $29. You take 1 tablet 3 times a day.

Conclusion: I made a mistake from looking at the name of the product and believing it was a supplement used to increase height. It is not used for that. However, if one did a more extensive research on this product, one would see that many people do go on the internet boards and ask whether this product can be used to increase their height (HERE and HERE). In general the answer was a negative. It is supposed to increase muscle mass, give more energy, and make one feel younger. There is some synthetic growth hormone derivative in it and studies have shown that HGH does help one feel younger and give one more energy.

So, this product is good for everything listed above, but not height increase. I might recommend it for anyone who wants to take some type of supplement to make them get more fit in collaboration with an exercise program. For height increase, it probably won’t work.